Proposal: Ryan O'Reilly to Montreal

[AustonsNostrils]

Montreal 1st pick 2018 + Ryan Poehling < -------- > Ryan O'Reilly

Montreal's pick should be 8th-9th. If they don't get Tavares ROR is the next best center. I don't see any team giving up a young C with 1C potential for the 8th OA and Poehling.

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[ole ole]

Montreal 1st pick 2018 + Ryan Poehling < -------- > Ryan O'Reilly

Montreal's pick should be 8th-9th. If they don't get Tavares ROR is the next best center. I don't see any team giving up a young C with 1C potential for the 8th OA and Poehling.

8th or 9th

 

[Hostile Offer]

Our 1st round pick this year is definitely off the table, and we should hold onto Poehling as well. I wouldn't be happy with this trade at all. Maybe something around Galchenyuk+? Sabres might be interested in Juulsen? That would be much more enticing for me as a Habs fan.

 

[Benstheman]

as of now, the worst Habs can pick is 6th. Still can go as low as 8th, depending on the last two games.

Not sure i would give a pick that high and add our best center prospect for O'Reilly. On the other side, i don't think Buffalo is interested in continuing drafting and drafting and drafting again. I think they would be more interested in a top 4 D in exchange for O'Reilly.

 

[AustonsNostrils]

8th or 9th

Well if they end up picking top 3 then I understand they don't deal that pick. If they end up 6th to 8th then - looks like 8th is the lowest they would pick.

 

[AustonsNostrils]

as of now, the worst Habs can pick is 6th. Still can go as low as 8th, depending on the last two games.

Not sure i would give a pick that high and add our best center prospect for O'Reilly. On the other side, i don't think Buffalo is interested in continuing drafting and drafting and drafting again. I think they would be more interested in a top 4 D in exchange for O'Reilly.

Well they may very well go that route trading for a good D. If they got say the 7th pick from Montreal they'd be able to take a young dman, Dobson/Hughes/Bouchard/Boqvist - one or more of them would be available. Poehling I see as a potential 2C/3C.

 

[AustonsNostrils]

Our 1st round pick this year is definitely off the table, and we should hold onto Poehling as well. I wouldn't be happy with this trade at all. Maybe something around Galchenyuk+? Sabres might be interested in Juulsen? That would be much more enticing for me as a Habs fan.

um, no, if the Sabres do decide to shop ROR there will be 15 teams who'll be interested, there would be some very good offers. The question for Buffalo is can we get enough in return to make trading ROR make sense considering how much he does. On the other hand, we've finished dead last with ROR twice so he's not been enough to drag the number of sorry ass players he's surrounded by up, neither has Eichel. I don't think any player would. Edmonton managed to suck with McDavid.

 

[Hostile Offer]

Well they may very well go that route trading for a good D. If they got say the 7th pick from Montreal they'd be able to take a young dman, Dobson/Hughes/Bouchard/Boqvist - one or more of them would be available. Poehling I see as a potential 2C/3C.

Something people often seem to dismiss is that getting Dobson/Hughes/Bouchard would be huge for the Habs as well. We don't want to deal that pick away.

 

[Brock Radunske]

Montreal 1st pick 2018 + Ryan Poehling < -------- > Ryan O'Reilly

Montreal's pick should be 8th-9th. If they don't get Tavares ROR is the next best center. I don't see any team giving up a young C with 1C potential for the 8th OA and Poehling.

I really like ROR but he's not worth pick #8 and their best prospect (who happens to be a center).

Besides, it's a dumb move for Buffalo as well. EVENTUALLY they need to stop selling NHL players for picks and prospects. I agree ROR should probably be traded but they should try to get a few young nhler's with upside for him.
Look how it worked out for Vegas.

 

[sansabri]

Oh, and we add. Never change, HF.

 

[AustonsNostrils]

I really like ROR but he's not worth pick #8 and their best prospect (who happens to be a center).

Besides, it's a dumb move for Buffalo as well. EVENTUALLY they need to stop selling NHL players for picks and prospects. I agree ROR should probably be traded but they should try to get a few young nhler's with upside for him.
Look how it worked out for Vegas.

Go take a look at the last decade of picks between 6th and 8th - there is nothing guaranteed with a pick in that range, numerous disappointments and some outright busts. ROR is a elite 2C in his prime. Poehling isn't an 'A' prospect, B+ at best.

You make no sense - you suggest 'a few young NHLers' - 'a few young NHLers' are worth the 6th-8th pick and Poehling. Unless you're suggesting the Sabres would trade a world class player for 3 third line third pair players - which is absurd.

 

[Doublechin]

poehling, a second and a 4th and I'd consider it. Then again I'd rather throw bank at John tavares 12M a year, fine with that

 

[Brock Radunske]

Go take a look at the last decade of picks between 6th and 8th - there is nothing guaranteed with a pick in that range, numerous disappointments and some outright busts. ROR is a elite 2C in his prime. Poehling isn't an 'A' prospect, B+ at best.

You make no sense - you suggest 'a few young NHLers' - 'a few young NHLers' are worth the 6th-8th pick and Poehling. Unless you're suggesting the Sabres would trade a world class player for 3 third line third pair players - which is absurd.

Well, I don't think he's worth the OP but you're entitled to your opinion.
Just out of curiosity, when was the last time a player was traded for a top-10 lottery pick and a team's best prospect?
Not to mention, ROR's contract is balls.

And for young NHLers (and I mentioned Vegas) I mean players who have a lot of potential but are getting squeezed out on their teams (you know, how Vegas did with guys like Karlsson...)

 

[lifelonghockeyfan]

Montreal 1st pick 2018 + Ryan Poehling < -------- > Ryan O'Reilly

Montreal's pick should be 8th-9th. If they don't get Tavares ROR is the next best center. I don't see any team giving up a young C with 1C potential for the 8th OA and Poehling.

A terrible overpay Montreal. for a second line centre on a last place team. If Montreal has 7.5m to spend on centre, how's this proposal. Severely overpay Stastny at 7m a year for three years, and keep Poehling and the 8th pick.

 

[sansabri]

A terrible overpay Montreal. for a second line centre on a last place team. If Montreal has 7.5m to spend on centre, how's this proposal. Severely overpay Stastny at 7m a year for three years, and keep Poehling and the 8th pick.

ROR is a legit 1C.

 

[AustonsNostrils]

Here's the list, 1/3rd of the players are disappointments/bust, 1/4 are better than O'Reilly. Montreal's such a good drafting team I'm sure they'll find a Derek Pouliot or at best a Couturier who will take 5 years to become what ROR is now.

Nikita Filatov
Colin Wilson
Mikkel Boedker
Oliver Ekman-Larsson
Nazem Kadri
Scott Glennie
Brett Connolly
Jeff Skinner
Alexander Burmistrov
Mika Zibanejad
Mark Scheifele
Sean Couturier
Hampus Lindholm
Mathew Dumba
Derrick Pouliot
Sean Monahan
Darnell Nurse
Rasmus Ristolainen
Jake Virtanen
Haydn Fleury
William Nylander
Pavel Zacha
Ivan Provorov
Zach Werenski
Matthew Tkachuk
Clayton Keller
Alexander Nylander

 

[Sabresruletheschool]

I do think there is a chance ROR will be traded though I don't know what the asking price will be. There's a few teams that would want him but those teams might be waiting to see what Tavares does. After he signs, a bidding war might happen.

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

Can Montreal take on ROR's contract along with Price's? I'm quite hesitant on that.

 

[Hostile Offer]

Can Montreal take on ROR's contract along with Price's? I'm quite hesitant on that.

We can sort it out. Obviously preferred would be if there was some cap going to Buffalo in this trade. Really not interested to trade that 1st round pick for ROR though.

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

We can sort it out. Obviously preferred would be if there was some cap going to Buffalo in this trade. Really not interested to trade that 1st round pick for ROR though.

Yeah, I disagree with that, too.

 

[Vachon23]

I world really like to have ROR in our team ! he would be a perfect fit for Claude Julien system, but I don't think that I would trade our 1st pick + Poehling but I would listen if it's one of those 2 peaces + an other thing

 

[UnleashRasmus]

We can sort it out. Obviously preferred would be if there was some cap going to Buffalo in this trade. Really not interested to trade that 1st round pick for ROR though.

While that makes sense, there is no shot of any deal happening without a first round pick coming back for O'Reilly. As the trade deadline proved, players with term are more valuable than expiring contracts. So if you go off of Hartman deal that netted a 1st who isn't even on the same career path as O'Reilly is, then sorry no thanks. A Juulsen, Galchenyuk marriage of the minds won't happen either. Both are fine young players, but Gally doesn't have that kind of value. He'll need another year to recoup that sort of return.

 

[Kraken Jokes]

I'd consider it but...

- I want to see where the Habs' 1st actually lands.
- I'd be hesitant to move Poehling in the deal... by hesitant I mean I pretty much would not.
- If NYI hasn't signed Tavares by the draft, I'd also want to see what's going on there.
- I'd probably want to send some salary Buffalo's way.

 

[Vachon23]

I'd consider it but...

- I want to see where the Habs' 1st actually lands.
- I'd be hesitant to move Poehling in the deal... by hesitant I mean I pretty much would not.
- If NYI hasn't signed Tavares by the draft, I'd also want to see what's going on there.
- I'd probably want to send some salary Buffalo's way.

to add ROR AND Tavares would be amazing

 

[Captain Mountain]

Montreal 1st pick 2018 + Ryan Poehling < -------- > Ryan O'Reilly

Montreal's pick should be 8th-9th. If they don't get Tavares ROR is the next best center. I don't see any team giving up a young C with 1C potential for the 8th OA and Poehling.

Montreal is currently 3rd last in the NHL. Most point projections have them finishing there at the end of the season. I don't see how 8th or 9th is where their pick should be. Its more likely that they draft in the 3-6 range.

And even in that hypothetical situation, Montreal isn't going to give up that high a first and their best prospect for ROR. And no one is going to give up that price for ROR without at least some salary going the other way.

And no lottery team is going to consider trading their first until after the lottery.