RockLobster
King in the North
Alright boys, what is the scouting report on MDZ?
I second this. We need some info here, because I for one am preparing myself to welcome our new Del Zotto overlord.
Alright boys, what is the scouting report on MDZ?
Wait, are there more rumours about us getting MDZ or is it still the one from CBC?
Wait, are there more rumours about us getting MDZ or is it still the one from CBC?
Alright boys, what is the scouting report on MDZ?
Wait, are there more rumours about us getting MDZ or is it still the one from CBC?
6. As mentioned on Hotstove Tonight, Colorado began the process of approaching teams it considers possible trade partners. One was definitely the New York Rangers. I had originally thought the deal involved Michael del Zotto and Derek Stepan for O'Reilly and another defenceman. However, it was strongly denied that Stepan was ever discussed, so I think I was wrong. The Denver Post's Adrian Dater has reported the Avalanche are not as interested in getting a centre back.
7. Even so, del Zotto is exactly the kind of player Colorado would want. Tyson Barrie's goal on Monday against the Nashville Predators was the first by an Avalanche blue-liner this season. I've been asked what defenceman the Rangers liked, but don't have a definite answer. Earlier this season, I'd heard New York was looking for a right-handed shot. However, del Zotto is a lefty.
8. I would not be surprised if Colorado approached the Florida Panthers, too.
Alright boys, what is the scouting report on MDZ?
Alright boys, what is the scouting report on MDZ?
Still the one from CBC, hockeyfish is right, we've just run out of things to talk about it seems.
Dominic Tiano @dominictiano
There's an unsigned RFA who was back home in Clinton Ont., hasn't asked for a trade, but said would " like to one day play for the #Bruins "
Dominic Tiano @dominictiano
Feel like I need to clarify my tweet on "Ryan O'Rielly" from other day but will only say: He was back home in Clinton practicing w/ ...(1/2)
Dominic Tiano @dominictiano
...Junior C team and was behind the bench for a game Friday night. He has NOT asked for a trade.
I gave my impression on him in the trade thread in regards to a Liles comparison, based on my limited viewings, and research into him. Boom Boom Geoffrion (a Rangers fan) seemed to think it was pretty accurate.
Basically he's a very good outlet passer, and uses this much more than purely rushing the puck like Liles, or even Barrie. He's got a bit of a physical and nasty edge to his game as well, and while he isn't a defensive dynamo, he is decent in this area, and doesn't have quite as much trouble with bigger forwards as a guy like Liles does.
He also has a very hard and quickly timed slapper, to go along with what appears to be a very quick and accurate wrister that he utilizes well. He jumps into the play well, and from what I've seen has very good stick handling and finishing moves like a forward in close.
Not quite an elite offensive defenseman at this point, but still with plenty of promise, and has grown his game a lot. I think he could make partner with EJ, and take some of the pressure of him to carry the puck and jump start the rush.
You can see some of his goals here in the NHL.com link, and the YouTube montage shows some of the edge to his game as well.
http://video.rangers.nhl.com/videocenter/console?hlp=8474584&lang=en
Wilson hasn't proven to be a top 4 defenseman by any means, so him losing his top 4 spot isn't that big a deal. He's a much better fit on the bottom pairing anyway.Lost in all of this is Ryan Wilson though, what happens to him this year and beyond if we aquire MDZ, he was playing like a Top 4 Dman before he went down with the injury, and when he's playing well he plays like a good physical #3/4 Dman. I guess if he returns this year he'll probably play on the bottom pairing, but what about next year? What if Siemens surprises everyone in camp and makes the team?
I think we could see Wilson get moved at the deadline if he's playing again. With the emergence of Barrie and the possible acquisition of MDZ Wilson might have lost his spot in the Top 4. We could get a decent return for him I think, though it would have to be out east.
What's with the fascination with prospects? There's always the chance they never develop, and then you're left with nothing, as opposed to picking up proven young NHL talent. A guy like Del Zotto is only 22, it's not like in 3-4 years he couldn't be here. He'd probably be entering his prime then.I want some Panthers prospects rather than Del Zotto
MDZ's only signed through the end of next year, and I feel like we're 3-4 years away at least anyways. If MDZ were to play hardball next year and leave, we've solved nothing.
I've watched two Rangers games after the del Zotto rumors broke and they basically confirmed my view of del Zotto. He's slow, especially the first steps. He got completely schooled in a footrace by a Habs forward today. He's a bit passive in his own zone (could be Rangers system) but seems to think the game well enough both offensively and defensively. Once he engages in the defensive zone he is able to hold his own physically, even if he's never going to be the strongest player. Has a strong pass but will not rush the puck.
I like him but I don't love him. I think if we were to swap O'Reilly for him straight up, we'd lose the trade by quite a bit. I think Avs is right in asking for another valuable piece.
Wilson hasn't proven to be a top 4 defenseman by any means, so him losing his top 4 spot isn't that big a deal. He's a much better fit on the bottom pairing anyway.
Well said, I agree.
That's why the Winnipeg deal is so much better. You get a decent forward as replacement (Little/Burmistrov) plus the chance to hit a real home run with a prospect like Jacob Trouba.
What's with the fascination with prospects? There's always the chance they never develop, and then you're left with nothing, as opposed to picking up proven young NHL talent. A guy like Del Zotto is only 22, it's not like in 3-4 years he couldn't be here. He'd probably be entering his prime then.
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I like him but I don't love him. I think if we were to swap O'Reilly for him straight up, we'd lose the trade by quite a bit. I think Avs are right in asking for another valuable piece.
Highlight vids are tough though because they only show the good stuff... I want to see the rest. I might have to find a ranger game on soon
I want some Panthers prospects rather than Del Zotto
MDZ's only signed through the end of next year, and I feel like we're 3-4 years away at least anyways. If MDZ were to play hardball next year and leave, we've solved nothing.
Well said, I agree.
That's why the Winnipeg deal is so much better. You get a decent forward as replacement (Little/Burmistrov) plus the chance to hit a real home run with a prospect like Jacob Trouba.
Let's make the O'Reilly trade the new Eric Lindros trade.