RW Vitaly Kravtsov (2018, 9th, NYR; traded to VAN) Part2

[Kocur Dill]

Rykov played for Zubov last season.

Buchnevich also played for Zubov years ago, but I think you must be referring to Rykov because Buchnevich was given a very small role under Zubov.

Sorry, should have clarified. I meant Kravtsov. Given his obvious signs of maturity and understanding the mental aspects of the game. At higher levels, staff that are in tune with those skills themselves are more apt to give of their time and knowledge when they recognize a kid with potential they feel will put that to good use. It's a natural "living through them/legacy response" for people.

Just curious if Kravtsov was a Zubov or Nemchinov product. I'm weird like that. Backtracking peoples influences to how they got where they are both societal and personal. It's just part of the equation. I forgot which one was involved with SKA.

Side note, IIRC Nemchinov was rumored to have gotten into Pashnin's head and at the time Sarge had an axe to grind with NYR so speculation was that was why Pashnin didn't take coming here seriously.

I have all these little pieces in my head and trying to get a clearer big picture perspective.

Water under the bridge though..All our young men are here who need to be. Gorton/Clark/Drury...Davidson, are doing a good job facilitating diplomacy and desire on this very multi-cultural locker room.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Sorry, should have clarified. I meant Kravtsov. Given his obvious signs of maturity and understanding the mental aspects of the game. At higher levels, staff that are in tune with those skills themselves are more apt to give of their time and knowledge when they recognize a kid with potential they feel will put that to good use. It's a natural "living through them/legacy response" for people.

Just curious if Kravtsov was a Zubov or Nemchinov product. I'm weird like that. Backtracking peoples influences to how they got where they are both societal and personal. It's just part of the equation. I forgot which one was involved with SKA.

Side note, IIRC Nemchinov was rumored to have gotten into Pashnin's head and at the time Sarge had an axe to grind with NYR so speculation was that was why Pashnin didn't take coming here seriously.

I have all these little pieces in my head and trying to get a clearer big picture perspective.

Water under the bridge though..All our young men are here who need to be. Gorton/Clark/Drury...Davidson, are doing a good job facilitating diplomacy and desire on this very multi-cultural locker room.

He hasn’t played under either, from the best of my knowledge.

 

[Phil68]

Who's game does Vitaly Kravtsov resembles the most in terms of previous or current NHL players?

 

[Lays]

Who's game does Vitaly Kravtsov resembles the most in terms of previous or current NHL players?

I’d say a mix of Kuznetsov and Pettersson

 

[SlapshotTheMovie]

Who's game does Vitaly Kravtsov resembles the most in terms of previous or current NHL players?

Style wise he was compared to Alex Kovalev before he was drafted. Once again thats not a projection but a style comparison.

 

[Phil68]

Damn the Rangers has some hell of good prospects coming up.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Who's game does Vitaly Kravtsov resembles the most in terms of previous or current NHL players?

I don’t think there’s a great comparison out there, but there’s some Kessel in his game offensively.

 

[MikeSteaks]

I don’t think there’s a great comparison out there, but there’s some Kessel in his game offensively.

^ please disregard this scouting report. Kravstov is primarily a playmaker. Kuznetsov is a good comparison.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Who's game does Vitaly Kravtsov resembles the most in terms of previous or current NHL players?

Filip Forsberg

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Sorry, should have clarified. I meant Kravtsov. Given his obvious signs of maturity and understanding the mental aspects of the game. At higher levels, staff that are in tune with those skills themselves are more apt to give of their time and knowledge when they recognize a kid with potential they feel will put that to good use. It's a natural "living through them/legacy response" for people.

Just curious if Kravtsov was a Zubov or Nemchinov product. I'm weird like that. Backtracking peoples influences to how they got where they are both societal and personal. It's just part of the equation. I forgot which one was involved with SKA.

Side note, IIRC Nemchinov was rumored to have gotten into Pashnin's head and at the time Sarge had an axe to grind with NYR so speculation was that was why Pashnin didn't take coming here seriously.

I have all these little pieces in my head and trying to get a clearer big picture perspective.

Water under the bridge though..All our young men are here who need to be. Gorton/Clark/Drury...Davidson, are doing a good job facilitating diplomacy and desire on this very multi-cultural locker room.

Kravtsov comes from a wealthy family with a lot of ties and he grew up without any real problems. His dad was an officer in the Soviet army (which is why he could not attend the NHL draft because his visa application was denied), his sister is a lawyer living in Toronto now.

Kravtsov, after moving to live with his grandmother in Chelyabinsk with his mother while his dad stayed behind in Vladivostok, focused on hockey and while playing for the KHL team, he was always very close with some of the NA player Stoa and Bailen, later in the season Thomas as well. He played under former NHL player German Titov who helped him a lot during his rookie season.

Altogether, it's a combination of things, but Kravtsov's desire to play in North America motivated him to adjust early. His background, the family he grew up in, helped in developing a more global mindset at a young age unlike other kids.

In case anyone is interested in a source: Vitali's sister and father told me most of this last December when I ran into them at Starbucks in Vancouver. We sat down and talked for over 30 minutes

 

[Andrei79]

Cheering so hard for this kid to be a star. One of my favorite players I've followed during a draft. Watched almost all of his KHL playoff games.

Kravtsov comes from a wealthy family with a lot of ties and he grew up without any real problems. His dad was an officer in the Soviet army (which is why he could not attend the NHL draft because his visa application was denied), his sister is a lawyer living in Toronto now.

Kravtsov, after moving to live with his grandmother in Chelyabinsk with his mother while his dad stayed behind in Vladivostok, focused on hockey and while playing for the KHL team, he was always very close with some of the NA player Stoa and Bailen, later in the season Thomas as well. He played under former NHL player German Titov who helped him a lot during his rookie season.

Altogether, it's a combination of things, but Kravtsov's desire to play in North America motivated him to adjust early. His background, the family he grew up in, helped in developing a more global mindset at a young age unlike other kids.

In case anyone is interested in a source: Vitali's sister and father told me most of this last December when I ran into them at Starbucks in Vancouver. We sat down and talked for over 30 minutes

Great story. Thanks for sharing.

 

[snipes]

Kravtsov comes from a wealthy family with a lot of ties and he grew up without any real problems. His dad was an officer in the Soviet army (which is why he could not attend the NHL draft because his visa application was denied), his sister is a lawyer living in Toronto now.

Kravtsov, after moving to live with his grandmother in Chelyabinsk with his mother while his dad stayed behind in Vladivostok, focused on hockey and while playing for the KHL team, he was always very close with some of the NA player Stoa and Bailen, later in the season Thomas as well. He played under former NHL player German Titov who helped him a lot during his rookie season.

Altogether, it's a combination of things, but Kravtsov's desire to play in North America motivated him to adjust early. His background, the family he grew up in, helped in developing a more global mindset at a young age unlike other kids.

In case anyone is interested in a source: Vitali's sister and father told me most of this last December when I ran into them at Starbucks in Vancouver. We sat down and talked for over 30 minutes

Great background intel there. Thanks for sharing that it was a good read.

Helps explain obviously why his English is quite good at this age.

Rangers will be fun to watch, definitely getting Centre Ice this year after debating whether or not to get it again. The Rangers and Avalanche are a big reason why.

 

[FromRussiaWithLove]

Can't wait to see what he brings to the NHL. I could see him having an immediate impact with many points in NYR's top 6 forwards if he starts strongly.

Kravtsov comes from a wealthy family with a lot of ties and he grew up without any real problems. His dad was an officer in the Soviet army (which is why he could not attend the NHL draft because his visa application was denied), his sister is a lawyer living in Toronto now.

Kravtsov, after moving to live with his grandmother in Chelyabinsk with his mother while his dad stayed behind in Vladivostok, focused on hockey and while playing for the KHL team, he was always very close with some of the NA player Stoa and Bailen, later in the season Thomas as well. He played under former NHL player German Titov who helped him a lot during his rookie season.

Altogether, it's a combination of things, but Kravtsov's desire to play in North America motivated him to adjust early. His background, the family he grew up in, helped in developing a more global mindset at a young age unlike other kids.

In case anyone is interested in a source: Vitali's sister and father told me most of this last December when I ran into them at Starbucks in Vancouver. We sat down and talked for over 30 minutes

Informative, thanks.

 

[Boxscore]

Who's game does Vitaly Kravtsov resembles the most in terms of previous or current NHL players?

I see similarities between him and Kucherov. Also see some Kuznetsov in his style of play.

 

[greasysnapper]

I see similarities between him and Kucherov. Also see some Kuznetsov in his style of play.

Stylistically I see a little of Kuznetsov. At times I see Datsyuk on the offensive side of things.

 

[Raistlin]

How is he faring so far? Is he completely overshadowed by Kakko's play? For a prospect that highly rated, he sure isn't talked about.

 

[Jussi]

How is he faring so far? Is he completely overshadowed by Kakko's play? For a prospect that highly rated, he sure isn't talked about.

We are all shadowed by his divinity.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

How is he faring so far? Is he completely overshadowed by Kakko's play? For a prospect that highly rated, he sure isn't talked about.

He isn’t talked about as much because we have a lot of very good prospects. Kakko’s going to be talked about the most because he’s the #2 overall pick.

I don’t like making much of the prospect tournament because the majority of those players will never even play in the NHL and it’s the first hockey of the season for these players, but he was good after a slow start. He looked like one of the more talented players at that tournament.

He played in the first preseason game and didn’t have his best game. I’m not convinced he’s NHL ready, and with how the roster is situated, I don’t see the room for him in a top 9 role. This is why I would’ve preferred another season in the KHL for him. The AHL is not a place where you want Russian forwards to be developing.

But it’s certainly possible he makes the team and he also started the prospects tournament slow. I wouldn’t expect big things from him this season, if he makes the NHL team. That’s probably a year or two off. The kid was only recently drafted.

 

[AgentBrodeur]

this guy was dangerous watching last night

 

[AntNYR]

How is he faring so far? Is he completely overshadowed by Kakko's play? For a prospect that highly rated, he sure isn't talked about.

He played well in Traverse City prospect tournament and showed some skill in last nights pre-season opener against the Devils. He's still a work in progress though and some time in the AHL might do him good. Any other year and Kravtsov would definately be talked more and get more PR time. But with Kakko, Panarin and even Fox taking their share Kravtsov is somewhat overshadowed, despite being the second most skilled prospect the Rangers have had in years. Maybe that's a good thing.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

 

[Tonystretcher]

Do NYR fans have hopes of him playing center down the line or is he viewed as more of a pure winger? I was impressed with him playing the middle back at WJC

 

[greasysnapper]

Do NYR fans have hopes of him playing center down the line or is he viewed as more of a pure winger? I was impressed with him playing the middle back at WJC

I think he should play C, I loved him as a C back when he was 14, but I really doubt they make the move. Teams are less and less willing to make that change, but I actually feel like he'd do very well and be like a Domi making the move.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Hopefully he does eventually become a C that would be great but for now I just hope he has a good rookie year

 

[mm11]

from my dime store eyes he looked like a mess in the defensive zone and somewhat scared in my humble opinion.