RW Vitaly Kravtsov (2018, 9th, NYR; traded to VAN) Part2

[Caser]

Part 2 of the #KravtsovWatch.

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[Garl]

Um they scored a total of 102 goals all season. Their goalie is what got them the Ws. Stop stat watching and watch a game.

The system. They are a defense-first team. Doesn't change the fact that this group:
Glinkin
Stoa
Bergstrom
Thomas
Enlund
Polygalov
Szcechura

Is decent by KHL standarts.

It's not like Kravtsov played with bad players.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

@Garl

Btw, are you the guy who had a segment on Traktor TV?

Yes, that's me.

 

[93LEAFS]

@Garl



Yes, that's me.

That's awesome. Cool story.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

That's awesome. Cool story.

I wrote about my meeting with Vitali (and running into his family 3 months later in Vancouver):
How I Met Your Rangers Prospect: Starring Stat Boy Steven and Vitali Kravtsov - FOREVER BLUESHIRTS

 

[TheWhiskeyThief]

Late birthdays

It’s complicated because there are 4 different age definitions in 4 different scenarios, so people are either reading the section incorrectly or switching age definitions accidentally.

His draft year(8.10) he was considered 18. If he was drafted this season, he’d be considered 19.

For his ELC(9.2) if he signs this “year”(league year or season) he would be 19 as he signed it as his age was 19 on September 15th in the calendar year). If he plays 11 games his contract doesn’t slide. If he signs next “year”(league year, season) he is only 19 because of CBA 9.2, so they classify him as 20 under 9.1(d)(i) and all this is moot

For years of service to qualify for salary arbitration CBA12.1(c) has him at 19 as that is his age as of September 15 in the calendar year in which he signed. Due to his birthdate, AHL & ECHL games count as professional games(basically junior eligiblity has expired unless he goes back as an overager.) but he would have to play 10 games to earn a pro season.

For Waivers(13.4) Kravtsov was age 19 in the calendar year of the draft. In this “year”(playing season) he is age 19. If he plays 11 games, his waiver exemption goes from 4 seasons to 3.

For the expansion draft, CBA 12.1 is the operational definition of professional seasons. (Since it’s the section that introduces the definition of professional season) so if he plays 10 or more ECHL, AHL or NHL games he earns a pro season, making him expansion draft eligible.
So, if he plays 10 ECHL games, he becomes expansion draft eligible, but his ELC would slide.

 

[SoundAndFury]

The system. They are a defense-first team. Doesn't change the fact that this group:

That's actually even better than decent. Too bad SKA were so upset about this whole Kravtsov situation they left Traktor with no coaching It's honestly just weird how little Traktor scored. During Titov's coaching period they at least had 6 goal game, 7 goal game. After November 1st they haven't scored over 3 goals once.

 

[Zine]

Traktor had to implement even more of a defense-first system than usual because the defense is pure garbage.
Kravtsov played with reasonable talent up front, but it wasn't sufficient enough to compensate for the woodmen on the d-core if they chose to open it up a little. Plus, beyond maybe Bailen, they had nothing resembling a capable puck moving defenseman to start the attack.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

 

[Richter35]

If he signs and plays in fewer than 10 games he’s safe from the expansion draft right? If so might as well come over in a couple of weeks

 

[JustJokinenAround]

If he signs and plays in fewer than 10 games he’s safe from the expansion draft right? If so might as well come over in a couple of weeks

correct

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

If he signs and plays in fewer than 10 games he’s safe from the expansion draft right? If so might as well come over in a couple of weeks

The threshold is 11 games. He can play 10 games and still be exempt (CBA 13.4)

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

 

[Kaako Kappo]

But..why not?

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

But..why not?

My guess is that Kravtsov was placed on the shortlist for the national team or Russia B, and is therefore not released from his contract. Spring tournaments start April 5th (Russia B) and April 12th (Russia NT)

 

[TheWhiskeyThief]

CBA 12.1(a)

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

CBA 12.1(a)

Page 57.

 

[Atas2000]

But..why not?

Because according to KHL regulations Traktor would lose his rights in the KHL by doing so. With another possible lockout under Gary looming it's understandable they want to keep them. If not Kravtsov himself they might get some bag of money for his rights from a richer team that would be interested.

Thus until 1st May he is legally under contract with Traktor. Here's the GM talking:

Генменеджер «Трактора»: «На сегодняшний день Кравцов остается в России»

He also states that if Kravtsov wants to go to NA after 1st May Traktor will let him.

 

[Lays]

Here’s 10 minutes of his highlights from this season in case anyone wants a better look at him. He’s gonna need to add strength to himself and to his shot soon enough but he’s a fantastic playmaker. Might immediately be the best passer when he arrives next season (though DeAngelo probably has the edge)
He also might be the most/second most creative prospect taken in the 2018 draft, pulls off insane dekes like it’s nothing
6’3 frame and great defensively, amazing year from him

 

[EdJovanovski]

Here’s 10 minutes of his highlights from this season in case anyone wants a better look at him. He’s gonna need to add strength to himself and to his shot soon enough but he’s a fantastic playmaker. Might immediately be the best passer when he arrives next season (though DeAngelo probably has the edge)
He also might be the most/second most creative prospect taken in the 2018 draft, pulls off insane dekes like it’s nothing
6’3 frame and great defensively, amazing year from him

Pettersson-Lite

 

[Elitersson]

Pettersson-Lite

That was my thought as well after watching that video.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Pettersson-Lite

I see it too.

 

[IamNotADancer]

Here’s 10 minutes of his highlights from this season in case anyone wants a better look at him. He’s gonna need to add strength to himself and to his shot soon enough but he’s a fantastic playmaker. Might immediately be the best passer when he arrives next season (though DeAngelo probably has the edge)
He also might be the most/second most creative prospect taken in the 2018 draft, pulls off insane dekes like it’s nothing
6’3 frame and great defensively, amazing year from him

PSH... "highlights"... most of it doesn't even show him scoring. I can't believe you'd post such a video. Only goals count for such a high profile prospect, didn't you hear? Thanks to YOU we are now inviting criticism of other fan bases!

 

[ElLeetch]

The system. They are a defense-first team. Doesn't change the fact that this group:
Glinkin
Stoa
Bergstrom
Thomas
Enlund
Polygalov
Szcechura

Is decent by KHL standarts.

It's not like Kravtsov played with bad players.

there are numerous times where pulled 10 dekes out of his ass, set a teammate up for a 4'x6' wide open net, only to have that player whiff. he was playing with garbage.

 

[Lays]

there are numerous times where pulled 10 dekes out of his ass, set a teammate up for a 4'x6' wide open net, only to have that player whiff. he was playing with garbage.

He wasn’t playing with garbage but he wasn’t playing with good players for sure. Kravtsov was the best offensive creator on Traktor though in every game I watched