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Mendoza baby
I know you're just "Voicing your opinion" but that is the laziest analysis of a player I've seen in a while.
RW Jesse Ylonen - Laval Rocket, AHL (2018, 35th, MTL)
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Mrb1p
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Well at least I said something about the player, unlike your post which is completely worthless.
I don't know. Every time I see him play his lack of skill is apparent to me. Can't slow the game down and make plays, skates into traffic, fumbles the puck. Overall his offensive game just seems subpar.
Guess he can score goals a bit with his speed, hustle and tenaciousness, but considering the rest of his skillset not sure how that will translate.
I mean, there's literally a 90% chance that a player picked where he was picked doesn't become anything meaningful in the NHL, so I'm not sure why my take is so controversial. Based on his D+1 year I'm not sure if he's the guy who can beat those odds, but we'll see I guess.
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Bah, I can see where voicing my opinion is coming from if he had a Sean Bergenheim type of player in mind which would still be fine as a pick in my book.
He hasnt 0,5 point/game in a pretty bad league, if you look at younger player for example Haarala has 0,8 and he is not even drafted so Ylonen have to step up.
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I was impressed with his passing at the WJC. His production for the tournament was pretty good but he didn't play much. He's a bit of an enigma in that sense.
His upside seems to be that of a middle-six winger IMO. Which if he reaches that, that would be fantastic for the Habs.
He's got the 5th most points in the FEL for U20s, that is not horrible but not fantastic. Too early to tell at this point, but he's definitely not a slam dunk NHL prospect.
His upside seems to be that of a middle-six winger IMO. Which if he reaches that, that would be fantastic for the Habs.
He's got the 5th most points in the FEL for U20s, that is not horrible but not fantastic. Too early to tell at this point, but he's definitely not a slam dunk NHL prospect.
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A high second round pick has a 25-30% chance of playing in 200 NHL games.
I think his upside is higher than that but no, he's not a slam dunk.
Considering how my favourite choice for the pick in Berggren is doing, I can't be too mad with Ylonen's results. Hopefully this recent stretch will get him some more time.
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His one timer is deadly. He was used on the 2nd PP for Finland on the left halfwall in position for a one-timer. Most of his points came from that area, weird that you didn't mention it. I didn't get to see his regular season games, which are close to impossible to find for people in NA.
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He is not a perimeter player at all, you are right on becoming stronger though, as most 19 yrs old kids do...
Wrong, see below why and his production in the FEL has been really solid lately, especially considering he is playing on a third line with 2nd PP time...
Wrong, he carried a whole line by his own at the last WJC...
12 pts at his last 17 games, he really is starting to heat up, the kid is also playing his first FEL season so his early struggles were easily expectable...
He really has the potential to become an homerun type of pick...
Here is my top 10 Habs prospects list post WJC, you will find out why Im so high on this kid...
1- Cayden Primeau
Ive been a huge fan of Primeau for a while since his mix of size, skills and competitiveness makes him easily the best and most intriguing goaltending prospect we had in the system since Carey Price... After an outstanding rookie season in the NCAA, Primeau was headed to the WJC as the favorite to defend team USA's net, after a luckily first game against the Kazachs where he barely faced 15 shots and allowed 2 goals, he rebounded admirably well against the Finns in the preliminary round to just never quit the net again showing a calm and reassuring presence in net for team USA, as well as a high compete level, great rebounds control and great poise overall... He did extremely well in the quarter against the big Russian machine allowing only 1 goal on 33 shots, 14 of them came in the third when the game was on the line and the kid showed his legendary cold blood stopping all of them... The gold medal game was against the Finns and their big skilled goalkeeper, Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen, a 6'5 monster drafted late second round by Buffalo, easily along with Primeau, a top 5 goaltender prospect in the world for the NHL, a duel that didnt disappoint since both goaltenders had their moments in the game showing great poise and promise... First goal Primeau allowed was on a perfect quick one timer directed by Habs highly touted prospect Jessi Ylonen, a major league shot on which he just had no chance, second goal was a screened one, about 3-4 guys in the shooting lane, a puck that had eyes and ended up in the net, there is very little he could do on the winning game goal as well since there was alot of traffic in front... Overall, the best team that night won and Primeau can certainly leave that competition head up toward a very bright future... I know alot of people will disagree with me with Primeau at 1st considering the high quality of prospects following in that ranking, but thats mine nevertheless...
2- Jesse Ylonen
Here again, some people will disagree with Ylonen at 2, but after watching him pretty closely at the WJC, carrying a whole line by his own and outproducing some top prospects like Tolvainen, Heponiemi despite limited powerplay time in some games (while the first line was playing undeservedly basically the whole 2 minutes), and third line duties, I can safely say that Ylonen is one of the most purely skilled top prospects not only in the Habs system, but in the world, in 2-3 years from now when people make that draft review, I can confidently say that most people will have this kid easily in their top 10-15 of that draft... Coming to this tournament, I was looking at a skilled player with some flaws such as questionnable decision making, defensive play and puck battles issues, well, I was wrong, not only this kid was taking good decisions under pressure, competing hard for the puck all the times and taking his defensive duties seriously, but his offensive skills are even higher as I was personally expecting, that kid has elite skating both in term of speed and agility, can reach top gear and change directions with baffling ease and makes plays at top speed since he has very good stickhhandling skills and eye hand coordination, his skating allows him to get in position quickly and always close to the puck offering his linemates a passing option basically in all times... Ylonen can also shoot the puck, he has a very quick release, good accuracy and good velocity, it can only get better as he gets stronger... I have him as high as 2nd on our prospects pool since he probably has the highest upside among our skaters (with Suzuki, if he can improve his skating and pace further along with his strength) and his game is surprisingly well rounded at this point... Ylonen's game should translate well to the next level since his game is all about speed and pace, exactly where the NHL is trending these days, he also distributes the puck with accuracy, he is currently listed at 6'1 175 lbs, will probably add around 10 -15 pounds, what is more than fine for the NHL... He has top 6 upside for sure and could even ends up as a decent\good first line winger...
3- Ryan Poehling
That kid cant score right? Ended up the tournament tied with Kurashev in goals total with 6 and finished tied with 3 other players as best scorer in the tournament... While its unlikely Poehling ends up as a scoring threat in the NHL, he still proved he could score against the best kids in the world and that he could be productive while playing his pretty solid 200 ft game... Poehling was responsible of team USA resurgence when his team was looking dead and hopeless against a solid, fast paced and experienced Sweden team, trailing by 3 goals in the third, Poehling took charge and almost won that game by his own showing incredible determination and being involved in all 3 goals that led to the OT, maybe his team lost that game, but it certainly was a weakup call for the rest of the tournament... USA ended up losing the gold medal game and Im sure Poehling wished he could have done a little more in order to win that game, probably the reason why he was so devasted after the game, but overall, if you look at the whole tournament, Poehling certainly didnt disappoint and was so close from the ultimate goal... While Poehling's celling and projections are still unclear, I think its pretty safe at this point to say he is going to be a very solid and clutch NHLer having some natural leadership skills in himself... Weither if its as a good\decent second line center or a great third line one, he is a keeper!
4- Nick Suzuki
What this kid can do with the puck on his stick is rather incredible, his offensive creativity, vision, passing, stickhandling and overall offensive awereness are top notch, he was easily one of the most purely gifted fowards on that team Canada roster and possibly one of the most offensively gifted players in the whole tournament... That being said, this kid has to improve his speed, pace, strength and compete level furthermore in order to become a dominant player in the NHL, Is it that bad? No, I dont think so, I think the AHL will be a very good experience for him next year to develop his game and after spending some time there, I expect this kid to become a very good top 6 winger for us and a powerplay beast...
5- Alexander Romanov
What can I say that hasnt already been said? That kid is a very dynamic player who does everything on the ice, his skating is so fluid and smooth, he can move the puck very well, can hit like a truck, can defend like few players his age can, has pretty decent offensive awareness too, he does it all, except maybe quarterbacking a first PP unit since I dont see those game breaking abilities personally, overall, another big time riser in a re-draft, big big fan of his game...
6- Josh Brook
3 to 7 is very very close in my book, I could have Brook easily at 3, but since we have to rank them, I will put him here for now since I think he was a bit of a disappointment in this tournament... I know he was playing on his off side and wasnt given the opportunity to shine on the PP, but I dont feel he forced his coach's hand to get increased responsabilities much, was fine on the first PK unit and was possibly the most steady Canadian defenseman in his own zone, but I thought he was a bit too inconsistent through this tournament... Still has high potential and Im still a big fan, just think I have to rank him at this spot for now...
7- Cale Fleury
That kid, as I mentionned in another thread, reminds me alot of a young Francois Beauchemin since a bit like Romanov, he can do everything on the ice, can move the puck, can defend very well, can be a physical beast out there and a danger for the other teams fowards at gaining the offensive zone head low, Fleury, as Beauchemin used to, loves to throw open ice hits and most of the times, those hits are very well timed, can join the rush and generate some offense, another kid that looks like a stud going foward!
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8- Jacob Olofsson
9- Joni Ikonen
10- Cameron Hillis\Jordan Harris
Jesse Ylonen should be really taken seriously as a big time riser at that point!
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2 goals and an assist today.
I believe that is 15 points in his last 18 Liiga games.
I believe that is 15 points in his last 18 Liiga games.
Lmao. The play call on his assist where the goalie was making stops 30ft out of his net was hilarious. PBP guy was dying.
It's nice he was the 3rd most used forward with close to 19 minutes. His second highest TOI of the season (highest if excluding OT games). Hopefully this means a top-6 promotion somewhere in the near future.
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It was nice to see the progression in Ylonen's confidence (and usage) offensively this season after the WJCs. I'll be expecting better production from him next year but he's got all the tools to be a top-6 winger if he continues to develop.
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I like this kid a lot. Really overlooked even on the Habs board (even by myself and I'm Finn for christ's sake). He just doesn't have any glaring weaknesses in his game that would prohibit him from transitioning into the NHL once he fills out his frame.
Seems to have taken a huge step forward since last season. 2+3 today already in 3 mini games (2x15 minutes period and one game with 2x20 minutes).
Jokke has all the points from him on his Twitter
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Jokke has all the points from him on his Twitter
Jokke Nevalainen (@JokkeNevalainen) | Twitter
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he's exploding right now, he's everywhere on the ice.
Breakthrough year, finally playing on the first line and not the third ?
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