Gio’s extension is gonna be my next topic on my blog.
He needs a 5-year, 45 million dollar contract. There, I said it.
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Gio’s extension is gonna be my next topic on my blog.
He needs a 5-year, 45 million dollar contract. There, I said it.
Anything between 7-8M per over 5 years will be a fair deal for Giordano. Given that he'll be 33 as mentioned, I highly doubt management will risk handcuffing themselves way down the road, which is why it won't be longer than 5 years. And there's no historical precedent on Giordano's part to think he'll take a hometown discount. If anything, he'll go for exactly what he believes he's worth.
That's the difference though, unlike GlenX, Gio's next contract will take him into retirement years. Money motivates everyone but there's lots of other factors as well, family, playing your whole career for one team, standing with the organization and post playing opportunities. Let's not forget all the guys that have hurt their own careers by signing those boat anchor contracts as well, playing out their careers in the minors. Who would have thought Richards would go from pretty much playoff MVP to the AHL at this stage. It does happen. If his contracts more than $7+/over 5 years, he ends his career hated instead of love by the end.
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I should do another one of these. Or one of us should. None of Hox, II or myself have done one in almost 3 months
I think maybe a draft one.
Also for the sake of hilarity I have changed my blogging username to 100ThirdGraders too
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We're talking a 40 year old Gio at 7-8 million??? That's won't work out good for the Flames. 5 year max term, 6 if he shaves a million of the cap hit. Really, if we can agree he's worth about $100 000/game to us, then his cap hit should be about $6.5/year based on the last 3, 82 game seasons.
I should do another one of these. Or one of us should. None of Hox, II or myself have done one in almost 3 months
I think maybe a draft one.
Also for the sake of hilarity I have changed my blogging username to 100ThirdGraders too
It's getting pretty serious!
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I don't think anyone is, unless I've missed a post. Everyone who's saying 7-8 is saying a 4-5 year term. Anyone saying a longer term is reducing the dollar value.
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The way Gio has helped turn this team around, he deserves to be paid. The term is the only thing that is worrying most fans.
I think he should get no more than 6 years front loaded.
1st year - 10 mil
2nd year - 9 mil
3rd year - 7.5 mil
4th year - 7.5 mil
5th year - 5 mil
6th year - 3 mil
Cap hit of 7 mil for 6 years.
I think he should get no more than 6 years front loaded.
1st year - 10 mil
2nd year - 9 mil
3rd year - 7.5 mil
4th year - 7.5 mil
5th year - 5 mil
6th year - 3 mil
Cap hit of 7 mil for 6 years.
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I still say 6x6
Y1 - 8 million w/ NMC
Y2 - 7 million w/ NMC
Y3 - 6 million w/ NMC
Y4 - 6 million w/ NMC
Y5 - 5 million (3 million paid July 1 as signing bonus)
Y6 - 4 million (3 million paid July 1 as signing bonus)
Fair salary. The structure allows us to trade him in the final years if we are not a contender. The "signing bonuses" make it even easier to trade him (read: make him more valuable) because less dollars will be owed.
Y1 - 8 million w/ NMC
Y2 - 7 million w/ NMC
Y3 - 6 million w/ NMC
Y4 - 6 million w/ NMC
Y5 - 5 million (3 million paid July 1 as signing bonus)
Y6 - 4 million (3 million paid July 1 as signing bonus)
Fair salary. The structure allows us to trade him in the final years if we are not a contender. The "signing bonuses" make it even easier to trade him (read: make him more valuable) because less dollars will be owed.
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A couple of Ducks fans didn't mind this!
Backlund + 15th overall for Theodore + 27th overall. I think the value is pretty close actually. Gives us a high end, near NHL ready defenseman, while making room for Shore at center. I'd rank Theodore right up there with the top tier of defenders this year.
Backlund + 15th overall for Theodore + 27th overall. I think the value is pretty close actually. Gives us a high end, near NHL ready defenseman, while making room for Shore at center. I'd rank Theodore right up there with the top tier of defenders this year.
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Best case scenario we draft J Roy or Chabot at 15th and they become as good as Theodore, I would do that trade all day.
I'd do that trade, as long as there is a centerman we can realistically acquire from FA. I wouldn't trade Backlund unless we have someone who can take his place.
I think Bennett takes over the "#2 center role", if we have one by at least mid season anyways. So we upgrade Backlunds offensive output and take a hit defensively. Other than that it's the same as last year, Granny played a good stretch when Backs was injured anyways.
Very well written articles. I was worried they'd be similar quality to your GDT's.
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Backlund and Bennett will play very different rolls next year, you can't just slot Bennett in as #2C with no one in the organization to take the tough defencesive assignments.
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Don't really want to move that far down in the draft. Also don't know how the Flames can trade Backlund just yet; no reason to throw Bennett to the wolves right off the bat as the second line centre. 'Earned, never given' and all that nonsense.
No question Bennett will be much better offensively than Backlund, but it's way too soon to expect him to be able to handle the full defensive responsibilities of a second line centre; even Monahan was sheltered to start this year.
If the Ducks are looking for a Beleskey replacement and are willing to move Theodore, I'd base something around Colborne, Shore or Granlund.
Based on the Ducks needs from the thread on the tradeboard:
No question Bennett will be much better offensively than Backlund, but it's way too soon to expect him to be able to handle the full defensive responsibilities of a second line centre; even Monahan was sheltered to start this year.
If the Ducks are looking for a Beleskey replacement and are willing to move Theodore, I'd base something around Colborne, Shore or Granlund.
Based on the Ducks needs from the thread on the tradeboard:
Our needs are a 3C that is good in all 3 zones and at the dot, as well as a top 6 LW.
I'd prefer to try and move Stajan with salary retained for a mid round pick.
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It's really no different than the situation Monahan was in his first season. The only difference is Jonny and Monahan draw more attention, reducing the pressure on Bennett this year. In my eyes, he's already earned his spot with his playoff performance. Walking in, 2nd game in the NHL to the 1st trip to the playoffs in almost a decade. Thrived under 2nd line pressure and excelled....I'm sold!
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We still need to take our time on him. Keep in mind Hartley started having Sam take draws as the 4th line center, so I would imagine we will be sheltering him to a 3rd/4th line center and then gets PP time as a LW.
Eh, Bennett kind of struggled against the Ducks. Granted, so did most of the team but still, he was playing as the second line LW. Playing centre is a different challenge.
And depth down the middle is important. Until one of Arnold/Shore/Janowski/somebody else step up and demonstrate they can be a cheaper third line defensive centre, I'd prefer keeping Backlund. Trading him right now would remind me strongly of the Leafs trading Steen when his value was low.
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I know you love Backs but if you have an opportunity to trade a gifted young, two way 3C and 15th overall for a 20 year old defender, with 1st pairing potential you make that move every time. Guys step up or can be replaced but top pairing potential is had to come by.
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