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[FlameChampion]

The team knows, which is extra frustrating

Hopefully this team isn’t out of steam by the playoffs come. I feel like guys don’t take time off when they are injured. Seems like a lot of stubbornness on and off the ice.

 

[TB12]

I see the Oilers signed goalie from Brock.
Whats more impressive is UNB went 4-0 in tournament and did not allow a goal
47 games undefeated. 10 titles so far for UNB. 16 for Alberta. I would like to see a North American University Cup. I realize teams in Canada are usually older then American teams. I would like to see Alberta and UNB against the American best

Alberta has taken a big step back the last few years. Not near as dominant as they have been. Hell, they finished 5th in Canada West this year.

For a few years in the late 90's there was an NCAA/USport (CIAU, CIS, etc) matchup of a USport all-star team vs. the NCAA all-stars. It was pretty awesome to watch. The older, more physical USport guys vs. the younger and really fast NCAA dudes. Not sure why it was mothballed.

 

[Slats432]

Did it ever come out as to what that suspension was for?

This was the final word on it.

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[McHelpus]

Why on earth is he playing through a broken finger?

Because Cody Ceci playing 20+ minutes with Nurse seems way worse

 

[bellagiobob]

 

[MessierII]

Nurse is skating with stecher. Curious to see how they look.

 

[GOilers88]

This was the final word on it.

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Hmm. Interesting.

Thanks.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Nurse is skating with stecher. Curious to see how they look.

Let's hope that they get at least a full game together to see how they mesh. Ideally Stetcher comes in and does really well so that when Desharnais comes back, Ceci is the odd man out.

 

[McHelpus]

I have no faith in stecher, Holland should have overpaid for walker.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

I have no faith in stecher, Holland should have overpaid for walker.

Oh haven't you heard, Holland tried really hard and was in on guys like Tanev and Toffoli so that excuses having a C- grade deadline in a must win season

 

[CycloneSweep]

And still wouldn't have fit under the Oilers cap.

We could have paid a third party for the other half, instead of Henrique.

 

[NeverForget06]

I believe that Henrique will be more helpful in the playoffs than Toffoli. Goal scoring was not our problem against VGK, it was defence. I think Henrique moves the needle more in that area. He also just had a kid right before he got traded, so he has quite a bit going on in his personal life. I believe the best is still yet to come from him.

Just my 2 cents

 

[McHelpus]

Oh haven't you heard, Holland tried really hard and was in on guys like Tanev and Toffoli so that excuses having a C- grade deadline in a must win season

People really think:

Ekholm - Bouchard
Nurse - Stecher
Kulak - Desharnais

Is suppose to win a stanley cup lol, we better hope Nurse turns into Chris Pronger.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

I believe that Henrique will be more helpful in the playoffs than Toffoli. Goal scoring was not our problem against VGK, it was defence. I think Henrique moves the needle more in that area. He also just had a kid right before he got traded, so he has quite a bit going on in his personal life. I believe the best is still yet to come from him.

Just my 2 cents

For most of his career Toffoli was seen as a pretty solid two way winger, for what it's worth.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

People really think:

Ekholm - Bouchard
Nurse - Stecher
Kulak - Desharnais

Is suppose to win a stanley cup lol, we better hope Nurse turns into Chris Pronger.

I doubt that Ceci is the odd man out. Regardless, unless Skinner or another Oilers goalie stands on his head, that is not a good enough D to win a cup.

 

[CycloneSweep]

I believe that Henrique will be more helpful in the playoffs than Toffoli. Goal scoring was not our problem against VGK, it was defence. I think Henrique moves the needle more in that area. He also just had a kid right before he got traded, so he has quite a bit going on in his personal life. I believe the best is still yet to come from him.

Just my 2 cents

I’m theory you are right. Right now Henrique doesn’t even know what defense is.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

I’m theory you are right. Right now Henrique doesn’t even know what defense is.

I sincerely hope he turns it around, but yeah, In his four games as an Oiler he's been obliterated defensively and created next to nothing offensively.

 

[Heavy Dee]

I’m theory you are right. Right now Henrique doesn’t even know what defense is.

Or offense. He has 5 sog in 5 games.

 

[Kwiatkowski18]

I’m theory you are right. Right now Henrique doesn’t even know what defense is.

You can tell you've never played high level sports or have been traded. Adjustment periods are very real - especially at a very high level of play. You're learning the city, teammates, systems, habits. You're overwhelmed to the core right off the hop and considering personally what's going on for him, it makes sense. Give him time to settle in before judging the player.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Or offense. He has 5 sog in 5 games.

371st/427 among forwards in scoring chances for per 60 in the time he's been an Oiler, 416/427 in scoring chances against per 60.

Yes, there's mitigating circumstances, and his linemates have been shit too, but it's hard to polish a turd to the point where those results are acceptable.

I sincerely hope he comes out and has a few great games here. We need it bad.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

You can tell you've never played high level sports or have been traded. Adjustment periods are very real - especially at a very high level of play. You're learning the city, teammates, systems, habits. You're overwhelmed to the core right off the hop and considering personally what's going on for him, it makes sense. Give him time to settle in before judging the player.

While this is true, it begs the question as to why Toffoli and Guentzel (And Duclair, and Walker, and Roslovic, and Kuznetsov, and Wennberg...etc...) have been able to hit the ground running with their new teams and Henrique looks like a fresh AHL callup.

 

[OilerTyler]

I’m theory you are right. Right now Henrique doesn’t even know what defense is.

Henrique literally hasn't been on the ice for a goal against yet as an Oiler.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Henrique literally hasn't been on the ice for a goal against yet as an Oiler.

He has been massively outplayed. Last game was literally 1 HDCF vs 11 Against. He hasn't been on the ice for a goal against cause goaltending has bailed him out, not because he is playing well defensively. His defensive metrics right now are AWFUL. And the eye test backs that up.

 

[Oilers in NS]

Alberta has taken a big step back the last few years. Not near as dominant as they have been. Hell, they finished 5th in Canada West this year.

For a few years in the late 90's there was an NCAA/USport (CIAU, CIS, etc) matchup of a USport all-star team vs. the NCAA all-stars. It was pretty awesome to watch. The older, more physical USport guys vs. the younger and really fast NCAA dudes. Not sure why it was mothballed.

Weird not seeing Alberta in Nationals. Powerhouse of a program. Seen them play various times when they hosted nationals in Halifax. Very good program. UNB is unreal now. I watch them when they come to STFX.

I wonder if it’s insurance reasons they cancelled the College games?

 

[CycloneSweep]

You can tell you've never played high level sports or have been traded. Adjustment periods are very real - especially at a very high level of play. You're learning the city, teammates, systems, habits. You're overwhelmed to the core right off the hop and considering personally what's going on for him, it makes sense. Give him time to settle in before judging the player.

Of course.
Whats why I said things like "in theory" and "right now".
I am not writing him off, but you look around the league like @ChaoticOrange said..t here are guys who are in very similar situations who have hit the ground running, so its unfortunate.

My biggest worry with a guy like Henrique is, he has 4 playoff games since his rookie year in 2011/2012 (Which they made it to the cup finals). And in those 4 games he did absolutely nothing. So really he has no real playoff experience for almost his entire career. He isn't used to playing meaningful hockey in April on. It will be a big change for him at his age to suddenly ramping up his game in April rather than be hitting the links and taking it easy. That was a big risk to me honestly and his current play is worrying.

Thats not set in stone, he could absolutely start playing well but we can only judge the player on what they are putting in front of us.