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[MessierII]

Based on what metric?

Vinny gives up half a goal less per 60 5 on 5 and plays way more PK minutes.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

The key difference between Benoit and Desharnais is Benoit was an RFA. I believe two of the three years of Benoit's new deal are RFA years if my math is right.

Desharnais should make more simply because his contract will be purely UFA years.

If Desharnais loses any speed at all he will become a pylon. He's 27 and a late bloomer. He's a prime candidate for an overpay IMO.

 

[guymez]

The key difference between Benoit and Desharnais is Benoit was an RFA. I believe two of the three years of Benoit's new deal are RFA years if my math is right.

Desharnais should make more simply because his contract will be purely UFA years.

Fair point.

Still...he would be hard pressed to get much over $2M

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Benoit is actually a very good high end comparable for Desharnais.

Benoits TOI is on average 2 min 30 sec more than Vinnys and he has also played 191 NHL games compared to Vinnys 103 NHL games.

In terms of comparables for Vinny the Benoit contract is very good news IMO.

Vinny is a much better PKer than Benoit, and Benoit is only getting that much ice because the leafs lack so much depth on their blueline. I think Vinny gets around $2M from someone

 

[McDNicks17]

Fair point.

Still...he would be hard pressed to get much over $2M

It's hard to say. GMs can be weird with these big, defensive guys. There always seems to be someone backing up a truck full of money for a Gudbranson, Schenn, Cole, etc.

I'd say for UFA comparables, best case is Hakanpaa's $1.5Mx3 and worst case would be Soucy's $2.75Mx3.

The cap supposedly rising a ton could inflate those numbers too.

 

[guymez]

It's hard to say. GMs can be weird with these big, defensive guys. There always seems to be someone backing up a truck full of money for a Gudbranson, Schenn, Cole, etc.

I'd say for UFA comparables, best case is Hakanpaa's $1.5Mx3 and worst case would be Soucy's $2.75Mx3.

The cap supposedly rising a ton could inflate those numbers too.

Then you walk.
No need to sign a #6 dman for over $2M IMO.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Then you walk.
No need to sign a #6 dman for over $2M IMO.

Agreed 100% that's too rich for this team.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

If Desharnais loses any speed at all he will become a pylon. He's 27 and a late bloomer. He's a prime candidate for an overpay IMO.

If he comes in at more than 1.75 - 2 per with term of more than 3 years you wish him well and move on. Bouchard and Draisaitl will cost us an arm, a leg, a spleen, a kidney, a left ventricle, a brain and both nuts.

 

[Spawn]

Then you walk.
No need to sign a #6 dman for over $2M IMO.

Agreed. We’ve already got Kulak making nearly 3M on the bottom pairing. The bottom pair is where you can save some money.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Agreed. We’ve already got Kulak making nearly 3M on the bottom pairing. The bottom pair is where you can save some money.

This is where you hope a kid, or two, step up and provide effective minutes on the cheap.

 

[guymez]

Agreed. We’ve already got Kulak making nearly 3M on the bottom pairing. The bottom pair is where you can save some money.

Couldnt agree more.

 

[McDoused]

Maybe a hot take but I'm just happy we got to watch McDavid and Draisaitl for a decade. If they decided to leave I wouldn't hold it against them. We're blessed to have had them for this long. If they decide to stay that's icing on the cake.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Nice the franchise's #3 goalie is locked up to an extension

 

[GOilers88]

Honestly think 3 years is too much term for VD.

2 years max. Team has been burned way too many times signing role players.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Honestly think 3 years is too much term for VD.

2 years max. Team has been burned way too many times signing role players.

That's fair, but he's still young, so it's not like giving a 34+ year old that term. Cap hit is more my concern with re-signing Desharnais

 

[GOilers88]

That's fair, but he's still young, so it's not like giving a 34+ year old that term. Cap hit is more my concern with re-signing Desharnais

Honestly it isn't his age that concerns me.
If he truly is just a late bloomer coming into his own and has miles left, then it would be good. Full credit to him the last couple years, he's earned his shot.

I'm just skeptical about him long term. Keep him hungry, and if it falls off you don't have to worry. I really don't see a reason to commit long term (one could argue 3 years isn't long term I guess) to a bottom pairing defenseman. They did the same thing to Kulak because he was playing in the top 4. But when you start acquiring players for roles they're actually suited to, he gets bumped down to where he should be, and then costs way more than the position should.

Just my opinion, of course. I see VD as a 6/7 tops, so we may disagree there.

 

[McShogun99]

Maybe a hot take but I'm just happy we got to watch McDavid and Draisaitl for a decade. If they decided to leave I wouldn't hold it against them. We're blessed to have had them for this long. If they decide to stay that's icing on the cake.

I just want Mcdavid to stay so I don't have to start cheering for another team.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

I just want Mcdavid to stay so I don't have to start cheering for another team.

When Gretzky was traded to the Kings I didn’t start cheering for the Kings. I hated them even more! Logo on the front not the name on the back, no matter who it is wearing the jersey!

 

[PositiveCashFlow]

When Gretzky was traded to the Kings I didn’t start cheering for the Kings. I hated them even more! Logo on the front not the name on the back, no matter who it is wearing the jersey!

I just want Mcdavid to stay so I don't have to start cheering for another team.

When Gretzky was traded to the Kings I didn’t start cheering for the Kings. I hated them even more! Logo on the front not the name on the back, no matter who it is wearing the jersey!

 

[Fourier]

When Gretzky was traded to the Kings I didn’t start cheering for the Kings. I hated them even more! Logo on the front not the name on the back, no matter who it is wearing the jersey!

Always logo first. But I would be lying if I said that the Gretzky trade/sale was not a massive blow to my feelings about the team.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Always logo first. But I would be lying if I said that the Gretzky trade was not a massive blow to my feelings about the team.

I mean you keep calling it a trade, but...

 

[BarDownBobo]

Nice the franchise's #3 goalie is locked up to an extension

Should be the undisputed #3 next year getting 60-70% of the starts with Fanti/Ungar backing him up. Hopefully no more Campbell/Pickard down there for the coaches to lean on, time to see what the guy you invested a 2nd rounder in is made of.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Always logo first. But I would be lying if I said that the Gretzky trade was not a massive blow to my feelings about the team.

I was sooo pissed at Pocklington. After he sold everyone he could it was a complete ghost town in the arena. The guy ripped the heart out of the city.

 

[Fourier]

I mean you keep calling it a trade, but...

I edited my post to better reflect reality.

 

[Fourier]

I was sooo pissed at Pocklington. After he sold everyone he could it was a complete ghost town in the arena. The guy ripped the heart out of the city.

My dad worked for one of the companies he ruined. My dad retired before the company was essentially tanked but a lot of his friends were not so lucky. His last couple of years were definitely stressful.