Rumor: Rumors and Proposals | Why You Heff to Sign Vatanen?

[alphahelix]

Honestly at this stage I think Chiarelli might still be terrified of an offersheet option.

It could be Kessel-esque , lose the top pick in every round next year and a high one the year after..

#possibleoutcome

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Maybe on the PP, but Shattenkirk isn't exactly a defensive stalwart.

A lot better than anyone currently on our blue line.

 

[Pointteen]

Chiarelli snuck in a signing while no one noticed.

Good for Oesterle. Think he can be a solid 3rd pair guy this year or simply can provide depth.

Proves he isn't doing nothing. The guy earned a good long look. I think it is pretty accepted to have him in the press box over Nurse or Reinhart.

 

[North]

Well gee maybe if we bring in a center that doesn't get hurt....

How do you control injuries?

Good teams don't trade away valuable assets without getting value in return. A guy who is a UFA at the end of the season is not value maximized.

 

[North]

A lot better than anyone currently on our blue line.

Not necessarily.

 

[Aceboogie]

Honestly at this stage I think Chiarelli might still be terrified of an offersheet option.

It could be Kessel-esque , lose the top pick in every round next year and a high one the year after..

#possibleoutcome

Toronto should have just been entering a rebuild. The roster was putrid and they were a bottom feeder even WITH Kessel. That was just Burkes inability to evaluate a roster. If you land Lindholm as a RFA, you land a legit top pairing D with #1 upside. If you get him + healthy Klefbom + Davidson and also top 4 RD, what if you the picks are 10th in 2017 and 16th in 2018?

 

[McTrashBoat]

Do we light a candle vigil for SpeedTurtle or sacrifice something to summon him?

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

How do you control injuries?

Good teams don't trade away valuable assets without getting value in return. A guy who is a UFA at the end of the season is not value maximized.

So who's saying its a straight deal? Hanging onto RNH with something better in the wings is so Oilers like the whole Bishop non-deal.

 

[nabob]

You still have a year to sign him.

And there's the very probable outcome that an American from the East plays out the season and then signs in the East on an American team.

There would be zero benefit and incentive for him to sign before becoming a UFA.

 

[North]

So who's saying its a straight deal? Hanging onto RNH with something better in the wings is so Oilers like the whole Bishop non-deal.

Wasn't that when Tambo was in charge?

You don't make a crappy move just to make a move.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

And there's the very probable outcome that an American from the East plays out the season and then signs in the East on an American team.

There would be zero benefit and incentive for him to sign before becoming a UFA.

Then we lost RNH. Oh well. RNH hasn't exactly shown us he's a special player.

 

[Tarus]

Unless you get a good deal for Shattenkirk. What did the Stars pay for Russell again?

Why do people consider RNH so valuable? We already have two centers better than him.

He's valuable because GMs think he's valuable, as noted when a few said they would have taken RNH over Johansson when Jones was traded out of Nashville.

Shattinkirk is significantly better player and I would much rather see him on the ice for Edmonton than RNH, but contracts matter. The Oilers can't afford to potentially throw away a highly regarded center locked up to a long term contract at his peak trade value for an impending UFA.

 

[nabob]

So who's saying its a straight deal? Hanging onto RNH with something better in the wings is so Oilers like the whole Bishop non-deal.

We didn't get Bishop because MacT wouldn't add a 2nd round pick to Jones. Neither one of those chips hold anywhere near the value of RNH.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Wasn't that when Tambo was in charge?

You don't make a crappy move just to make a move.

You don't sit on your ass and worry either. This team needs major upgrades on D unless its content with finishing last again.

 

[Halibut]

A year of Shattenkirk makes us a hell of a lot better than a year of RNH.

Maybe but it's 1 year of Shattenkirk for 5 years of RNH. I think you could find a better deal than that.

 

[nullmeatbag]

Sounds like Kulikov might shake out of Florida as Campbell is expected to re-sign, as per their beat writer.

I like the idea of Sekera-Kulikov as a second pairing.

 

[Paralyzer008]

Today is the anniversary of trading for Nikita Nikitin.

A terrible day.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

He's valuable because GMs think he's valuable, as noted when a few said they would have taken RNH over Johansson when Jones was traded out of Nashville.

Shattinkirk is significantly better player and I would much rather see him on the ice for Edmonton than RNH, but contracts matter. The Oilers can't afford to potentially throw away a highly regarded center locked up to a long term contract at his peak trade value for an impending UFA.

And why not? Because we might magically be worse? Can't get much worse than last year although given its the Oilers they very well could.

 

[North]

You don't sit on your ass and worry either. This team needs major upgrades on D unless its content with finishing last again.

You're on an island.

You maximize your trade chips not throw them away on a UFA to be.

I'm not saying hold on to RNH forever but if the choice is a UFA to be or keep him, then you keep him.

If you can find a team willing to provide an established d with term then and only then do you consider pulling the trigger.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Maybe but it's 1 year of Shattenkirk for 5 years of RNH. I think you could find a better deal than that.

At this point RNH is not worth the contract we gave him. Shedding ourselves of it isn't a bad idea.

 

[Pointteen]

Sounds like Kulikov might shake out of Florida as Campbell is expected to re-sign, as per their beat writer.

I like the idea of Sekera-Kulikov as a second pairing.

Me too. I saw him play a few times. Big. Got penalties for being a hard nosed kid in junior.

Boston started with the 29th.
What are Florida's forward needs? Start with the Oilers second and add a roster player?
Yak or Pouliot or what?

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

You're on an island.

You maximize your trade chips not throw them away on a UFA to be.

I'm not saying hold on to RNH forever but if the choice is a UFA to be or keep him, then you keep him.

If you can find a team willing to provide an established d with term then and only then do you consider pulling the trigger.

And suppose said deal never comes? If this team goes into TC without at least one top pairing or two 3/4 defensemen added we might as well make the 2017 draft thread.

 

[Soli]

Trigger finger itchy...

 

[nullmeatbag]

Me too. I saw him play a few times. Big. Got penalties for being a hard nosed kid in junior.

Boston started with the 29th.
What are Florida's forward needs? Start with the Oilers second and add a roster player?
Yak or Pouliot or what?

2nd + Yak?

If we can pull that off and Shattenkirk for non-RNH assets, I'd be okay with keeping our forward core together as is for one more year and see how they do with a D that can actually move the puck.

If you can't re-sign Shattenkirk, get some assets for him at the deadline and swing for the fences (with an Eberle that hopefully has gained some value) for a #1/2 D next offseason.

 

[Soli]

Perfection.

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