Spungo said:How is it worse?
nomorekids said:it doesn't matter. there will be no agreement until august or september, with the season starting in january.
BANK ON IT
nyr7andcounting said:If what's rumoured is all based on a projection of revenue for 05-06, than it's not worse.
If what's rumoured is based on $2.1B in revenues, meaning the cap might never even get to $36-$38M during this CBA and will be low 30's for the first couple of years, than it is worse. If this were the case, the cap would be so low over the next 6 years that all the other things the players gained over the February offer wouldn't even have a chance to have much of an affect.
Ted Saskin made and intriguing remark on Friday in response to Mario Lemieux's "the players should have taken the deal earlier" ..nyr7andcounting said:If what's rumoured is all based on a projection of revenue for 05-06, than it's not worse.
If what's rumoured is based on $2.1B in revenues, meaning the cap might never even get to $36-$38M during this CBA and will be low 30's for the first couple of years, than it is worse. If this were the case, the cap would be so low over the next 6 years that all the other things the players gained over the February offer wouldn't even have a chance to have much of an affect.
The Messenger said:Ted Saskin made and intriguing remark on Friday in response to Mario Lemieux's "the players should have taken the deal earlier" ..
" Perhaps he should wait to see the new CBA before making a comment like that, or jumping to any conclusions " Saskin said
The Messenger said:Ted Saskin made and intriguing remark on Friday in response to Mario Lemieux's "the players should have taken the deal earlier" ..
" Perhaps he should wait to see the new CBA before making a comment like that, or jumping to any conclusions " Saskin said
The Messenger said:Ted Saskin made and intriguing remark on Friday in response to Mario Lemieux's "the players should have taken the deal earlier" ..
" Perhaps he should wait to see the new CBA before making a comment like that, or jumping to any conclusions " Saskin said
I don't think a lot of knowledgeable people around here put too much weight into what a poster on a message board has to say. They are free to post as they like ..PepNCheese said:But...but...Iconoclast said....
The Messenger said:I don't think a lot of knowledgeable people around here put too much weight into what a poster on a message board has to say.
The Messenger said:I don't think a lot of knowledgeable people around here put too much weight into what a poster on a message board has to say. They are free to post as they like ..
I find that the people in the know as in Saskin here would have far more insight and credibility in regards to knowledge on the subject matter being in the room after all.
but prepare yourself for ..anti don't shoot the Messenger type reply's that takes the focus off the real issues in 3 .. 2... 1 ..
nomorekids said:it doesn't matter. there will be no agreement until august or september, with the season starting in january.
BANK ON IT
The Messenger said:Ted Saskin made and intriguing remark on Friday in response to Mario Lemieux's "the players should have taken the deal earlier" ..
" Perhaps he should wait to see the new CBA before making a comment like that, or jumping to any conclusions " Saskin said
I don't think credibility is the word you are looking for imo .. I used it in the form of message board poster verses actual CBA negotiator ..Jaded-Fan said:Sure, Saskin is in the know much more than I or anyone else here is . . . including Eklund . . .
But credibility? His self interest would make any take on this or any similar issue somewhat suspect wouldn't it? And before I hear it, sure enough Mario and everyone here, including you has self interest. Though I have opinions on who makes more sense in their opinions, I was not addressing that or comparing one persons credibilty to anothers though, merely the above.
The Messenger said:Ted Saskin made and intriguing remark on Friday in response to Mario Lemieux's "the players should have taken the deal earlier" ..
" Perhaps he should wait to see the new CBA before making a comment like that, or jumping to any conclusions " Saskin said
The Messenger said:Ted Saskin made and intriguing remark on Friday in response to Mario Lemieux's "the players should have taken the deal earlier" ..
" Perhaps he should wait to see the new CBA before making a comment like that, or jumping to any conclusions " Saskin said
Jaded-Fan said:Sure, Saskin is in the know much more than I or anyone else here is . . . including Eklund . . .
But credibility? His self interest would make any take on this or any similar issue somewhat suspect wouldn't it? And before I hear it, sure enough Mario and everyone here, including you has self interest. Though I have opinions on who makes more sense in their opinions, I was not addressing that or comparing one persons credibilty to anothers though, merely the above.
Saskin in fact was not obligated to say anything on the subject.nomorekids said:what do you expect him to say?
"well, we gave it the ol' college try...but...let's face facts here, we really took it on the chin"
After reading all of Roenick's comments in that article I actually didn't understand any of it. He's mad the players lost and he's mad that the players didn't follow him and the couple other guys who tried to go behind Goodenow's back and make a deal. Most of what he said was pretty stupid.The Iconoclast said:What part of Roenick's comments didn't you understand? How about Jagr's? The players got boned. It's time to fold your tent and move along. You got pantsed, accept it. Its painful to watch someone standing there with their little winkie hanging out while they try and explain how cold out it is instead of just pulling their pants back up.
Nonsense. Saskin's position is political; he doesn't dare let a slap in the face like Lemieux's go unchallenged. That isn't even worth discussing.The Messenger said:Saskin in fact was not obligated to say anything on the subject.
nyr7andcounting said:After reading all of Roenick's comments in that article I actually didn't understand any of it. He's mad the players lost and he's mad that the players didn't follow him and the couple other guys who tried to go behind Goodenow's back and make a deal. Most of what he said was pretty stupid.
Like I said, if it's on projected revenues for 05-06 than they did not get boned between February and now. If it's on projected revenues for 05-06 than this deal is better than the $42.5M offer.
If you'll notice the title of the thread, maybe you'll realize that it has nothing to do with who won and lost, it's simply Feb vs. today. If you would compare the two, at least what's been reported, you'll realize the players didn't get boned.
nyr7andcounting said:Like I said, if it's on projected revenues for 05-06 than they did not get boned between February and now. If it's on projected revenues for 05-06 than this deal is better than the $42.5M offer.
If you'll notice the title of the thread, maybe you'll realize that it has nothing to do with who won and lost, it's simply Feb vs. today. If you would compare the two, at least what's been reported, you'll realize the players didn't get boned.