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Speculation: Ruff Didn't Score Enough: Trades 'n' FAs II

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Flash20

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And I don't believe that rumor it sounds like bs they need to sign Pietrangelo, Shattenkirk
way too much money on the blue line
 
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Loods said:
Somebody on the Trades board that claims to have ties to Mitch Korn suggested that Buffalo and St. Louis are talking trade.

I don't buy it whatsoever, but because the O'Reilly talk is over, I figured it'd be an interesting topic to navigate towards.

The trade went as such:

To Buffalo: Berglund, Oshie
To St. Louis: Myers

Like I said - this seems like a ridiculous move on St. Louis' part and I don't believe it. But hypothetically speaking, if I'm Regier, I'm all over it. I'm also doing my best to shore up the defense by moving some forwards (Ennis/Hodgson) for Yandle/other defenseman, HF boards doesn't seem to grasp this very well.


I don't know much about Berglund, and I don't have the slightest clue as to how to read advanced stats, so if anyone could enlighten me on his game/teach me mre abouot advanced stats, I'd appreciate it.
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Short term it's great for Buffalo, long term I would HATE this trade.. Myers is no where near his prime, hell most defenceman don't reach their prime until almost 30 years old.
 

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I was pretty pissed that Regier didn't deal for Andrei Loktionov when I saw he was traded for only a 5th rounder, even more pissed now that he is doing well for the Devils. A young center with potential that we could have had for basically nothing. How do you not offer a 4th? The chances that a 4th rounder would give you a player like Loktionov are extremely thin.
 
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I was pretty pissed that Regier didn't deal for Andrei Loktionov when I saw he was traded for only a 5th rounder, even more pissed now that he is doing well for the Devils. A young center with potential that we could have had for basically nothing. How do you not offer a 4th? The chances that a 4th rounder would give you a player like Loktionov are extremely thin.
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You're pissed over that? ...

:nopity:
 
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What would you guys be willing to part with for Smid (UFA at the end of the year)?

It's obviously contingent on his re-signing here, but I think I'd move a fairly considerable asset for him to shore up the defense a bit.

Smid is very good. Underrated player.
 
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Loods said:
What would you guys be willing to part with for Smid (UFA at the end of the year)?

It's obviously contingent on his re-signing here, but I think I'd move a fairly considerable asset for him to shore up the defense a bit.

Smid is very good. Underrated player.
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Totally agree. Have had my eye on him for awhile now.

A big, tough, mobile defensive d-man. I think he'd be the ideal partner for Myers we've all been looking for since Tallinder left. Imagine a top 4 of:

Smid-Myers
Ehrhoff-Sekera

With Weber, Sulzer, Pysyk and McNabb rounding out the bottom pair...
 
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Loods said:
What would you guys be willing to part with for Smid (UFA at the end of the year)?

It's obviously contingent on his re-signing here, but I think I'd move a fairly considerable asset for him to shore up the defense a bit.

Smid is very good. Underrated player.
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I think I'd rather just wait until he hits UFA and sign him...no reason to get him for the rest of this year, unless you fear that a team that does trade for him as a rental is gonna re-sign him. But agree he's a good guy to target.
 
Irving Zisman

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GrigsAndGirgs said:
I think I'd rather just wait until he hits UFA and sign him...no reason to get him for the rest of this year, unless you fear that a team that does trade for him as a rental is gonna re-sign him. But agree he's a good guy to target.
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I think that's just it- Smid is still young enough and with enough gas left in the tank for a team to view him less as a rental and more of a guy who can be a piece of the puzzle going forward. I think whoever picks him up would look to re-sign him fairly quickly. He's got a lot of quality years left and just entering his prime...
 
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Loods said:
What would you guys be willing to part with for Smid (UFA at the end of the year)?

It's obviously contingent on his re-signing here, but I think I'd move a fairly considerable asset for him to shore up the defense a bit.

Smid is very good. Underrated player.
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stafford?

id like to get smid
 
Irving Zisman

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Beerz said:
Realistic in real world....not a chance in HF Trade forum world.
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Again, if Oilers brass are certain Smid is going to UFA, do they turn down a Stafford + deal for Smid? I don't know if they do. I think it would be close, tbh. We also know that Edmonton has been interested in Stafford before...

Edit: sorry Beerz, missed the "realistic in real world" part :)
 

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Stafford and Brennan for Smid

Dumo Leopold for a Tim Card
 
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I know Edm isn't too high on Omark and PRV but I don't think they'd add to Smid for that package.
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Omark and MPS are probably equal or lesser value than Brennan and Adam. I'd rather not even bother with Omark though. MSP + Smid for Stafford + Brennan/Adam.
 
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Jame said:
stafford?

id like to get smid
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And I'd like rid of Stafford and Leopold, but I see Leopold being of more interest. Stafford is going to be difficult to shift, especially to a team full of promising young forwards. Leopolds experience, age and two way ability might just be a better starting point. A team like San Jose, Calgary might be more interested in Stafford.

In general I see we need to replace Stafford and Leopold with a 2nd line center and RW primarily though. I do believe the main problem with our defense is youth, not skill. Ditch Leo, give McNabb a full time job and I think it'll help us greatly.

Question: Penner is a big guy who's proven to acheive with 2 out of the 3 clubs his played for, his only payed till the end of the season, would you take a chance on him? Gotta say I would like to, be easy to get as well I suspect.
 
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I see smid re-signing in edm. He's been great foe them and the boys seem to like him. If he's okay taking a discount he'll stay.
 
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TehDoak said:
Ironically those quotes from him are nearly identical to what Ruff said before he got fired.

However, I am willing to bet they will keep the neckless wonder around. However, they do have D...we have offense.

Let's talk, Nashville.
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We do? I think our offensive depth sucks--e.g., keeping a kid up who should be developing in juniors.
 
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