Rubbing out in beer league?

[FuelOrWater]

Gooning it up in a beer league LOL

 

[MegaAlf]

I slashed some guy in the head today. All he had was a visor. I just reacted. He was rushing in with elbows and even did a knee on knee against one of my teammates intentionally. I don't have patience for passive aggressiveness. If I fight someone is probably going unconscious, me or them.

I kickboxed for years. I just don't have patience for that kind of play in a non checking league. I haven't been in a fight since I started playing again and I don't want to. I just think it's cowardly when a bunch of 30 somethings want to circumvent rules and then act ignorant to the physicality of their actions.

 

[Goonzilla]

I slashed some guy in the head today. All he had was a visor. I just reacted. He was rushing in with elbows and even did a knee on knee against one of my teammates intentionally. I don't have patience for passive aggressiveness. If I fight someone is probably going unconscious, me or them.

I kickboxed for years. I just don't have patience for that kind of play in a non checking league. I haven't been in a fight since I started playing again and I don't want to. I just think it's cowardly when a bunch of 30 somethings want to circumvent rules and then act ignorant to the physicality of their actions.

I don't mind someone wanting to mix it up a little, providing they find a willing match up and not the smallest guy on the other team or someone who struggles or really isn't up to it, but I'm no fan of stick work.

If someone really needs sorting out, just belt them; and make sure they know it's coming so they can (at least try to) defend themselves. Don't like cheap shots, even reciprocating.

 

[tarheelhockey]

I play at a high level and sometimes contact after the whistle like that is unavoidable, but when it happens I always grab the guy/put my arm on him to brace him and say something to warn him to be careful in that spot. That's common courtesy on the ice in a men's league.

This.

It's not hard to say something, even just going "whoa, careful there" or something to let the guy know you have his safety in mind. That kind of defuses the whole notion that you might be gooning it up, not to mention being common courtesy as well.

 

[MegaAlf]

I don't mind someone wanting to mix it up a little, providing they find a willing match up and not the smallest guy on the other team or someone who struggles or really isn't up to it, but I'm no fan of stick work.

If someone really needs sorting out, just belt them; and make sure they know it's coming so they can (at least try to) defend themselves. Don't like cheap shots, even reciprocating.

I wasn't going for his head and I'm glad the stick didn't hit his face. I agree completely. I regret doing it.

 

[STC]

I wasn't going for his head and I'm glad the stick didn't hit his face. I agree completely. I regret doing it.

MegaAlf, please sign up for my intensive men's league retaliation clinic. I pretty much consider myself the leading authority in the 2 hander to the back of the legs discipline. In 4 short hours I'll have you two handing guys who deserve it with both precision and authority.

For an additional $19.99 I'll also teach you the for extreme circumstances only cross check to the neck.

**clinic comes with a free seat cushion for those uncomfortable penalty box benches.

 

[MegaAlf]

MegaAlf, please sign up for my intensive men's league retaliation clinic. I pretty much consider myself the leading authority in the 2 hander to the back of the legs discipline. In 4 short hours I'll have you two handing guys who deserve it with both precision and authority.

For an additional $19.99 I'll also teach you the for extreme circumstances only cross check to the neck.

**clinic comes with a free seat cushion for those uncomfortable penalty box benches.

I've only been in the penalty box once after almost 3 full seasons. You have incorrectly labeled me which makes me think your clinic is a scam.

 

[STC]

I've only been in the penalty box once after almost 3 full seasons. You have incorrectly labeled me which makes me think your clinic is a scam.

Nope, I pegged you correctly. A clean player who doesn't understand the fine art of stick swinging retaliations. You are exactly the type of player who needs my clinic.

Please PM me your CC#, mother's maiden name and SS# so we can get started.

 

[tfong]

Does standing someone up at the line when they try to go through you typically count as fair play or not? It seems to be different among refs and leagues in no-contact leagues. I mean I'm not going to move out of the way so the guy can just skate past me but apparently some people think I shouldn't stand my ground if someone tries to stickhandle through me and I hold my ground going backwards and they fall.

This is for low level beer league.

 

[Richard]

Does standing someone up at the line when they try to go through you typically count as fair play or not? It seems to be different among refs and leagues in no-contact leagues. I mean I'm not going to move out of the way so the guy can just skate past me but apparently some people think I shouldn't stand my ground if someone tries to stickhandle through me and I hold my ground going backwards and they fall.

This is for low level beer league.

Your ice is your ice; I think if you are backpedaling or standing skill that is perfectly acceptable.

However, if you skate towards a forward with his head down or something, that's a no go.

 

[tfong]

Your ice is your ice; I think if you are backpedaling or standing skill that is perfectly acceptable.

However, if you skate towards a forward with his head down or something, that's a no go.

I'm about 170-175lbs 5'9ish. A little while ago an opposing forward is trying to get out of their own zone and I'm holding the blue line, his head is kind of down and hes just trying to stickhandle (think div 11 stickhandling) straight at me more or less. Anyways he comes straight at me thinking he'll prob try and put it thru my leg or whatever or bite on his move laterally. I turn to stick lift him, stop the puck and at the same time I'm bracing so he basically runs into my shoulder (it hits his chest square on). The guy was at least a few inches taller than me so 6'0 or 6'1 and he basically goes backwards and falls and their bench goes ballistic. I wasn't penalized on the play either so in my mind I felt it was a legit play. But the guy was really pissed off and tried to go at me and their bench was raving mad.

 

[Mikwammichi]

Does standing someone up at the line when they try to go through you typically count as fair play or not? It seems to be different among refs and leagues in no-contact leagues. I mean I'm not going to move out of the way so the guy can just skate past me but apparently some people think I shouldn't stand my ground if someone tries to stickhandle through me and I hold my ground going backwards and they fall.

This is for low level beer league.

Absolutely nothing wrong with standing your ground, it's YOUR ground, it's one of my favorite defensive moves! Or, not-moves. Just do it safely.

It depends on how "low-level" you mean and how low-level you are - as mentioned in this thread before. Someone just learning to skate/play or if they're off balance/not expecting you there can get seriously hurt while they're learning. Slamming on the breaks could knock them down good. And how much control do you have in that situation?

If a newbie doesn't have their head up, I'll separate myself a bit so they're surprised but can't go anywhere, and tell them to keep their head up, usually smiling because I'm a nice girl and don't play competitively. I may put my hands up to guide them if they run into me. But even then I'm not going to move out of their way - making them move around you while trying to keep the puck is fun and they improve and learn what to expect.

But if they're a good skater I don't show any mercy. Because they'll probably get past me either way

Edit: You mentioned the guy had his head down - I woulda shouted a friendly/sarcastic warning as he approached or whatever if he's going slow enough - but if he's flying it's his problem. I play with friends but a guy has to learn at some point.

 

[STC]

Does standing someone up at the line when they try to go through you typically count as fair play or not? It seems to be different among refs and leagues in no-contact leagues. I mean I'm not going to move out of the way so the guy can just skate past me but apparently some people think I shouldn't stand my ground if someone tries to stickhandle through me and I hold my ground going backwards and they fall.

This is for low level beer league.

As others have said, as long as you stand your ground you have a right to that ice. If you move laterally or forward into the puck carriers path and make contact that is a check.

 

[Mikwammichi]

Does standing someone up at the line when they try to go through you typically count as fair play or not? It seems to be different among refs and leagues in no-contact leagues. I mean I'm not going to move out of the way so the guy can just skate past me but apparently some people think I shouldn't stand my ground if someone tries to stickhandle through me and I hold my ground going backwards and they fall.

This is for low level beer league.

Just curious, do people actually think that, or are they just upset they lost out? Because from my perspective, they're running into you. If they don't want contact they should stop running into defenders lol

 

[tfong]

Just curious, do people actually think that, or are they just upset they lost out? Because from my perspective, they're running into you. If they don't want contact they should stop running into defenders lol

In all adult leagues I've played in Calgary, people generally cry foul even if they run into you but you knock them back on their butts. This generally happens to me due to my low center of gravity and at the level I play with, a lot of people are skating almost standing up so I have way more leverage than them. I'm generally not one to complain since I have the policy of taking in what I dish out. I've had collisions when I've been blown up but if its a hockey play to me, I generally don't mind. I've also only had 2 penalties in the last 50 games or so I've played, both unrelated to physical play though.

 

[STC]

Just curious, do people actually think that, or are they just upset they lost out? Because from my perspective, they're running into you. If they don't want contact they should stop running into defenders lol

Is that really that hard to fathom? In order to run into another player a key component is that you are skating with your head down. Then, those players have no idea that they are the ones who initiated the contact. They all assume the d man stepped up and Scott Stevensed them.

 

[tfong]

Is that really that hard to fathom? In order to run into another player a key component is that you are skating with your head down. Then, those players have no idea that they are the ones who initiated the contact. They all assume the d man stepped up and Scott Stevensed them.

Yep especially when you play in lower tiers where people can't side step or go around you as well either.

Like I said, the bench gets mad but I've only been penalized twice in the last few seasons and never for those "hits".

 

[MegaAlf]

Nope, I pegged you correctly. A clean player who doesn't understand the fine art of stick swinging retaliations. You are exactly the type of player who needs my clinic.

Please PM me your CC#, mother's maiden name and SS# so we can get started.

I think I will just work on counting to 10 next time a conflict begins to arise.

 

[biturbo19]

I don't know about all ya'lls leagues, but i make sure to only rub out guys i know can handle it and appreciate it. I'm not going to rub out some guy who has just barely skittered his way to center ice or something because that's just mean, it's too easy to just take the puck away and get on with it. But if there's a guy i reckon is close to my skill level, or a guy i know, or a guy i feel can take it...it's always fun for everyone to rub a guy out. It's a thing for guys who played at levels where "rubbing out" was the least of it. I love it. I thoroughly enjoy rubbing a guy out, and being rubbed out by an opposing player if i'm trying to cheese by sneaking by when i shouldn't be able to. For anyone who has ever played contact hockey..."rubbing out" is fair game in Beer League.

Really just depends on what sort of level you're playing at i guess.

Trying to "rub out" a guy in a "beginners level" where peeps are just trying their hardest to stay on their feet is pretty stupid. I don't know what purpose that serves.

 

[Goonzilla]

I don't know about all ya'lls leagues, but i make sure to only rub out guys i know can handle it and appreciate it. I'm not going to rub out some guy who has just barely skittered his way to center ice or something because that's just mean, it's too easy to just take the puck away and get on with it. But if there's a guy i reckon is close to my skill level, or a guy i know, or a guy i feel can take it...it's always fun for everyone to rub a guy out. It's a thing for guys who played at levels where "rubbing out" was the least of it. I love it. I thoroughly enjoy rubbing a guy out, and being rubbed out by an opposing player if i'm trying to cheese by sneaking by when i shouldn't be able to. For anyone who has ever played contact hockey..."rubbing out" is fair game in Beer League.

Really just depends on what sort of level you're playing at i guess.

Trying to "rub out" a guy in a "beginners level" where peeps are just trying their hardest to stay on their feet is pretty stupid. I don't know what purpose that serves.

I'm all for that, but it really helps to have referees who are up with it and happy to exercise a little discretion. I've been called for the most innocuous little 'could have' where you're just letting them know you're there and then I've gotten away with really putting some squeeze on. Some refs can read the intent and some can't (or can't be bothered).

 

[PlayoffBeard365]

I play pick up and have only skated for 15 months and I'm not certain of some of the language/actions being used here. But I've had two similar incidents and I'm not sure if it's just "hockey" or a "d*** move".

In D zone Im covering guy at the point. I poke check the puck away back into the neutral zone and we race for puck near boards. The other guy gets to the puck first with me on his back, stops abruptly, stands up and leans himself aggressively into me. BAM I slam into him OR he stands me up and I land on my a**.

At the time, I was not capable of stopping uber quickly. And I'm still not able to stop how these guys did while positioning their bodies for impact. I wasn't sure how to react, if it was questionable contact or not, due to being so new to the game (playing 1 year) and playing against mostly C and B Level guys. I'm all for appropriate contact and having fun, heck those plays just woke me up if anything. But I don't want to look like a sap and not stick up for myself if its questionable.

 

[Hyzer]

I play pick up and have only skated for 15 months and I'm not certain of some of the language/actions being used here. But I've had two similar incidents and I'm not sure if it's just "hockey" or a "d*** move".

In D zone Im covering guy at the point. I poke check the puck away back into the neutral zone and we race for puck near boards. The other guy gets to the puck first with me on his back, stops abruptly, stands up and leans himself aggressively into me. BAM I slam into him OR he stands me up and I land on my a**.

At the time, I was not capable of stopping uber quickly. And I'm still not able to stop how these guys did while positioning their bodies for impact. I wasn't sure how to react, if it was questionable contact or not, due to being so new to the game (playing 1 year) and playing against mostly C and B Level guys. I'm all for appropriate contact and having fun, heck those plays just woke me up if anything. But I don't want to look like a sap and not stick up for myself if its questionable.

He's just protecting himself. I do that every time I go into the boards aggressively, because if you didn't stop you would board the **** out of him, which is not nice for anyone involved.

Don't think of it too much. I think its a good hockey play to protect yourself.

edit: assuming you are perpendicular to the boards

 

[Goonzilla]

If they stop suddenly and you can't stop, turn or cut to avoid a collision, then it's not their fault you couldn't do that if you come off second best.

 

[PlayoffBeard365]

He's just protecting himself. I do that every time I go into the boards aggressively, because if you didn't stop you would board the **** out of him, which is not nice for anyone involved.

Don't think of it too much. I think its a good hockey play to protect yourself.

edit: assuming you are perpendicular to the boards

Perpendicular to boards so no potential boarding in play really. He could have continued in stride with the puck back into his D zone or made a pass or cut back towards my D Zone. There really was no need to stop.

 

[ORLY]

I don't even think about it, just skate backwards and cut off their angle, if they skate into you, they skate into you. Most times they won't and cough up the puck or pass it off.