IMO i think Aaltonen could have made good difference for this team. Järveläinen was so invincible basically in every line he was playing, Aaltonen would have been 100x better than him.
in·vin·ci·ble
adjective
1.incapable of being conquered, defeated, or subdued.
2.insuperable; insurmountable: invincible difficulties.
Jortsu already was an U20 coach in 2009-10 season. Even though he did better than Rindell resultwise, the game still looked far from convincing. A regular QF exit that year.
Predictiton: Granlund and Armia explode vs Slovakia and end up 1st and 2nd in scoring.
In two years nobody remembers how much team finland sucked, and Granlund/Armia will be always remembered as the leading scorers of the toughest WJC ever.
Funny, I thought it wasn't particularly bad. While I agree that there is room for improvement and it could be a more stylish imitation, I thought it was still fairly recognizable. No other Finnish coach is known for talking like that.I remember that bad impersonation of Ortio though which doesn't remind me of Jortikka at all.
I could see this happening when we were in the junior slump After the Mikko and Tuomo generation grew up, but see no way why there wouldn't be more viable names up for challenge now that we've picked it up and seem to be steadily producing great prospects again.Wonder if our bigger coach names are even afraid to coach in U-20 now as it may cause some damage to their careers/reputations if they fail.
I have no doubt that Raipe, with his reputation alone, couldn't be able to create a better team spirit and more cohesive effort than Rindell did. But for as long as the man falls back to the Aravirta playbook of dumping the puck when protecting a lead, I don't want to see him anywhere near the bench.Yeah, at least he has some charisma and I'd bet the boys really listens when he talks to them.
Yeah. Some people might forget this happened (after all, I don't think there were too many who recalled we were in relegation in 2009 also), but when the topic of scoring comes up, there will always be someone who reminds people how and why the points racked up. So, overly optimistic thinking, if any.Actually I think it is the other way around. They will be remembered that they where the ones who showed up in the relegation round against weak competition.
Plus after Raipe took us to semis, I figured that when you've got a talented enough crop, no pro coach can tank that bad.
Raimo "Raipe" Helminen. Ex-player turned horrible horrible horrible coach. Was head coach of Finland in the last years WJC.
Raipe has authority and is able to get the players to listen to him, but he doesn't have that much to give in the tactical department, at least not yet. That's his problem. Ilves is in last place in SM-liiga. Their material is bad, but look at SaiPa for example. Their player material is far from the best, but they're still 3rd in the league, because they have a coach with a solid gameplan. The only worse coach than Raipe in the league is HIFK's Soppa, who has no authority and no gameplan.
Yea but ilves has been in huge problems in the company, team was without owner and without goverment, it has worser material than saipa. Now they have again been without goaltender, luckily some A-junior has played well. Its really hard for a new coach to succes in that situation, I think Raipe would've done just well coaching Jokerit for example, or any other team would've been better. I know he isn't ready as a coach, but you just cannot blaim only Raipe.
Is this the first U20 tournament you watched them? Because last year, it fluctuated just as bad, even if the end result was wholly different.It's true that mistakes happen more often in U-20, but that game just made U-20 look really bad, because I've never seen Finland's U-20 game fluctuate in such a way.
I admit immediately I don't know how of if Raipe has progressed as a coach but last year was a disaster playwise.You obviously know **** all about coaching a hockey team.
I take you mean Teuvo here.Barkov and Granlund should both be on the team next year too - so that's something to look forward to, while Armia and Granlund days of u20 are done - dust in the wind, memories of what could have been.
As a Blackhawk fan I obviously have an interest in Teravainen - so that disclaimer is stated.
I don't understand the disproportionate mentions of Armia, Granlund and Barkov compared with Teravainen. Seems there are 10 threads mentioning one of those three for every one thread mentioning Teravainen. Granted, all mentions of Teravainen that I've seen have been positive, compared to many negative critiques of Armia, Granlund and less so for Barkov, but Teravainen seems like an after thought when it seems the opposite should be true. TT is a year younger than Armia and Granlund and (IMO) better than both of them. Many of TT's 11 points came on the PP and yet he still finished with +6 compared to -1 and 0 for Armia & Granlund. Barkov and Granlund should both be on the team next year too - so that's something to look forward to, while Armia and Granlund days of u20 are done - dust in the wind, memories of what could have been.
Let's think positive - TT and Barkov (and others like Ristolainen) should be a very good core group for next u20.
As a Blackhawk fan I obviously have an interest in Teravainen - so that disclaimer is stated.
I don't understand the disproportionate mentions of Armia, Granlund and Barkov compared with Teravainen. Seems there are 10 threads mentioning one of those three for every one thread mentioning Teravainen. Granted, all mentions of Teravainen that I've seen have been positive, compared to many negative critiques of Armia, Granlund and less so for Barkov, but Teravainen seems like an after thought when it seems the opposite should be true. TT is a year younger than Armia and Granlund and (IMO) better than both of them. Many of TT's 11 points came on the PP and yet he still finished with +6 compared to -1 and 0 for Armia & Granlund. Barkov and Granlund should both be on the team next year too - so that's something to look forward to, while Armia and Granlund days of u20 are done - dust in the wind, memories of what could have been.
Let's think positive - TT and Barkov (and others like Ristolainen) should be a very good core group for next u20.
I take you mean Teuvo here.
Ah. There's been very little wrong with TT's WJC performance and he just about lived up to the expectations people had for him. He's been doing very good in the league lately, so people expected results from him in this tournament- and he delivered. That's probably the reason he isn't mentioned as often as the others. Teuvo didn't underperform, but he didn't really exceed expectations either.
We also have a tendency to focus on the negative performances rather than the positive ones.
If the lockout ends, the regular season will last longer than usual. This means only very few NHL players will make it to the WHC, meaning we might see a handful of irregular picks in the top countries' rosters.Completely agree, I actually think TT was our best player in this tournament.
I was really impressed by him.
If the lockout ends, the regular season will last longer than usual. This means only very few NHL players will make it to the WHC, meaning we might see a handful of irregular picks in the top countries' rosters.
With this coming to pass, TT could have a very good chance of breaking the men's squad as well. He'd be the same age as Granlund two years ago. Most of us are hot on Barkov, but I wouldn't be surprised to see Teräväinen make it while Sasha doesn't. Barkov is, after all, still U18 eligible as well.