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Roster Speculation Pt. 18
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I just don't get it. What does Sam Bennett do for this team that Girgensons doesn't already? We need players who can score (without Eichel feeding them points through a tube). Bennett is definitely not that guy.
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His faceoff numbers would be useful here for those that are into that. Bennett is 2 years younger, but will probably cost a mil? more than Girgs.
Sadly hes probably stuck as a winger, if they cant get Reinhart to play center, dont think the coaches could turn Bennett into a useful one
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Well, seeing as Girgs is a UFA, and Bennett is a RFA after next year, one could say, provide a game that is under contract with the team if we were to trade for him. We may need to replace Girg's game as well as Larsson.
I'd like to see them do something around (give or take draft picks to balance it):
To Calgary:
Montour Rights
Mittelstadt
Pilut's Rights
To Buffalo:
Jankowski
Bennett
Fjordy
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LOL what? In what world is Sam Bennett worth it all? Jankowski has little value after last season.
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I don't hold Mittelstadt to be of high value, Pilut's rights are low value, and the biggest piece is Montour's Rights, and those aren't valuable to our team since we are overloaded on the RD. Calgary has a few guys on the defense that are UFA's and it might be of better value for them to go after Montour who fits their style than overpay for a guy like Hamonic (for example).
It's not a sexy IMPACTFUL move, but it's a small move that doesn't hurt our top assets, tweaks our team a bit for the middle/bottom 6. A Kahun/Bennett tandem could be a very good combo with speed and grit for the middle of our lineup. I personally like Jankowski's game and he has shown he can play with some high-caliber players and he wouldn't be lost playing with them.
Hold up, we're trying to replace Girgensons, the 4th line specialist who has scored 24 goals over the last 3 seasons, by getting someone who is paid 2.5M.
There's plenty of good skating 4th line wingers available. And you don't have to pay them 2.5M. And on top of that, if we offered Girgensons 2.5M, i guarantee you he'd sign with a smile on his face. He's gonna get a paycut this summer, almost guaranteed.
There's plenty of good skating 4th line wingers available. And you don't have to pay them 2.5M. And on top of that, if we offered Girgensons 2.5M, i guarantee you he'd sign with a smile on his face. He's gonna get a paycut this summer, almost guaranteed.
So, I certainly understand the value Larsson brings, and Girgensons. But, we've seen almost zero success with them. It's time to move on. Let's focus on the top 9 forwards, top 4 D, and starting goalie....then maybe it makes sense to assemble an amazing puck control 4th line. It feels like people are obsessing over keeping/replacing them...it's like picking out the headlights when the motor is falling out and the brakes don't work. Yeah headlights are important, but what do they matter if the car doesn't drive.
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We need more guys like Girgensons sprinkled throughout the roster. IMO Girgs has been played out of his potential role. He could've done more if he was with more creative offensive players (see his time with Eichel). Bennett is in the same boat.
I'm personally open to re-signing Girgensons AND acquiring the guys I said. I'm more interested in building a team and roster that has traits that can mesh well, and that can interchange with one another.
This idea that we need to make a huge splash to fix this team is ridiculous and I'm willing to bet that it's going to be the smaller cheaper moves that create the biggest change of this team and be better for the team in the long run.
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Larsson and Girgensons would be considered the tires of the vehicle in this analogy if you actually understood their value to the team.
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For that offer I'd expect Hanifin and Bennett
Bennett is literally just an ever so slightly better Girgs that can win faceoffs.
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I'm not against it, cost depending. But I would also kind of hope we have our eyes set a little higher. A left handed shot winger doesn't exactly scream team need. Unless they want to give him a full time look at center.
He looks to be a steady 15+15 guy or around that anyways. I don't exactly trust the pro scouting dept, or whoever is left of it, but there might be something left in there. He's 24 and his TOI has gone down every year. He could be a guy that produces more once he's got man strength. If its a low cost move and you slot him 3C and commit 16 minutes a night to him he might prove to be a sneaky pick up.
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IF Hanifin was involved, I'd expect Risto to be a piece going the other way.
My value of Mittelstadt is lower than most people on these boards, so that's probably where the difference is. A player's rights isn't valued that highly around the league so using those assets where I don't want to lose them for nothing would be smart asset management.
I look at Jankowski that has untapped potential, with a solid faceoff winning% (close to 50%) and would be a cheap option to use as a stopgap if needed for Cozens, that could fit the rookie there for development purposes while having flexibility at the position. He had a bad year last year. I think he has a ton of room to produce with better linemates that fit his game better.
I see Bennett as someone with a change of scenery type of move. He would add much needed grit in our middle 6.
And for the record, the importance of "winning" the trade weighs so much less than finding the right guys to fit the right roles. If I have to trade a player in Middlestadt to bring in guys that can fill in roles on this team, then I'm in favor of that. If people feel better, then trade Asplund in that spot.
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We're giving up the highest value asset in the deal by far & probably the second highest value asset as well.
This kind of thing shouldn't need spelling out...
Sure, I understand their value....
to a team that finished 25th, 27th, 31st, 25th, 23rd, 30th, and 30th.
Again, I'm for keeping them on reasonable deals. However, I very much assume they both want to go someplace else at this point. They are replaceable pieces that are very good at who they are, energy/depth guys.
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Well, you just underestimate our players and overestimate Bennett very much. He's a regular player for a bottom 6 with grit. I wouldn't trade Montour or Mittelstadt one for one for Bennett.
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Show me a single player who posted a positive goal differential in a role comparable to Larsson on a comparably bad team.
He is absolutely not replaceable.
He is absolutely not replaceable.
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Unfortunately, he will be replaced. The problem is that it is likely to be a cheaper option and the Sabres will get what they pay for.
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