Roster Speculation 2015-16 Pt. II
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No, I think you let Foligno play out his contract year. He's a RFA next year and we're really not in the danger zone cap wise when it comes to offersheets, so no reason to try to get him locked into a long term deal.
I've been toying with the idea of flipping Foligno to fill one of our bigger needs (RW, LH D, G) and going out and getting Bickell from Chicago to fill that spot. Bickell doesn't bring the same offensive potential as Foligno has, but he certainly plays the "heavy" game that Murray wants. He also would bring some much needed experience.
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Mike Ramsey would like to have a word with you.
It's too bad I couldn't find any good hip check videos of him considering he was one of the greatest hip checkers of all-time.
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Foligno I wait and see how he does this season. Weber I think is unlikely he gets re-signed unless it's on the cheap as a #7, but a lot of that has to do with external factors (Zadorov, McCabe, do we sign a Sekera?)
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Other UFAs (not by need) who played for Bylsma:
Zbynek Michalek
Jordan Leopold
Brenden Morrow
Mark Letestu
Lee Stempniak
Brian Gibbons
Craig Adams
Might've missed a couple more, but that's the gist.
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I know he's not a UFA, but I'm thinking he may want Tim to go after Dupuis via trade, if he was healthy enough.
Would Jordan Staal be a smarter target for Buffalo than O'Reilly given the latter's contract status?
He's older and, in my eyes, not as good offensively, but he drives possession and would eat the minutes O'Reilly would tackle if the Sabres traded for him.
I doubt he's available, but that reporter's tweet re: Bylsma/Staal got me thinking.
He's older and, in my eyes, not as good offensively, but he drives possession and would eat the minutes O'Reilly would tackle if the Sabres traded for him.
I doubt he's available, but that reporter's tweet re: Bylsma/Staal got me thinking.
I like Jordan Staal, but in the end Carolina isn't trading him. He's 26, he's overpaid, and he has a NMC to block any trade.
So, they'd have to
A) Find a place he'd accept a trade to
B) Get one of those teams to take on the 8 years, 48 M left on his contract
C) Get enough assets out of that team to make it worth their while
Jordan and Carolina are married long term, like it or not.
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How did he not win all the cups
Just going to keep making comments like this to no one in particular until you get someone to bite?
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How is being a former player under Bylsma considered advantageous to the sabres signing any of them?
I don't think anyone has said that it would be. The purpose was to identify former players with whom Bylsma may be familiar, and thus can recommend to Murray based on roles the two of them identify as needing to be filled. Excluding Martin, most of those guys are the type with which you fill out the roster.
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Thoughts on flipping one of our 2nds for Dan hamhius? Puck mover that fills a role, and is a Ufa in 2016. Could decide to resign him, or move up Zads / McCabe.
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Djp
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foligno is an RFA (5 yrs in--2 more till UFA) in 2016. This is a make or break year for him. If he doesn't improve on his offense I can see him get traded.
right now on LW you have:
Kane
Ennis
Grigs/Girgs
Foligno
Moulson
I want to have some room for kids coming up.
As for Weber I don't see resigning him. It all depends on what they bring in to LHD in the offseason.
Sabretooth
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I guess I'm not understanding then. It's essentially a list of bottom 6 / bottom pairing interchangeable depth guys. I'm not understanding why Bylsma, let alone Murray or the scouting staff would target specifically those players for depth roles unless the fact that they were former players under Bylsma was favorable and beneficial.
Idk, maybe I'm just biased from watching so many penguins games, but I'd actually rather avoid those players. I don't know why anyone would want the sabres to try to recreate some of the worst aspects of the penguins rosters the past 5 years just to provide Bylsma with some familiarity that he probably doesn't even want or need.
I'd be all over Jordan Leopold just to recoup the 3rd round pick we gave up for Bylsma.
I'm confused as to what seems to be bothering you about this subject. Jame initially started naming some players who played under Bylsma who'd fill a role. I simply named a few more UFAs who had played for Bylsma. Moreover, I expressly stated that I was simply naming UFAs with no regard for what role, if any, they'd play in Buffalo. Then you came in, guns blazin' about something that has seemingly upset you about this topic.
Of course most of them are role players. Your hyperbole aside about "recreating" Pittsburgh's bottom-6--not every player who played a bottom-6 role there sucks; for example, Letestu would be a completely legitimate RW4 who can also play C4--every team needs to fill out their roster with players. It may be at least possible that Bylsma suggests a guy he thinks could round out the roster a fill a small role.
Oh, and our season has been done for coming up on two months now. Roster minutiae gets discussed in this thread. If it bothers you that much, you probably won't want to visit this thread much over the next five weeks.
I think at this point Ryan O'Reilly is better than Jordan Staal at every aspect of Hockey except skating.
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So great interview with Bylsma about Sabres roster. This was the labeled "Eichel Worth The Hype". Some insights from Bylsma, which I assume is part his own and Tim Murray's:
Evander Kane is a top line forward.
Matt Moulson and Tyler Ennis are top 6 forwards.
Zemgus Girgensons can insulate the others, but is not a top line center.
And here's one nugget that made me smile. Johan Larsson is being talked about a lot by other NHL people and scouts. He has a reputation as very hard to play against.
Didn't mention Grigorenko at all.
Sam Reinhart will be a star.
Evander Kane is a top line forward.
Matt Moulson and Tyler Ennis are top 6 forwards.
Zemgus Girgensons can insulate the others, but is not a top line center.
And here's one nugget that made me smile. Johan Larsson is being talked about a lot by other NHL people and scouts. He has a reputation as very hard to play against.
Didn't mention Grigorenko at all.
Sam Reinhart will be a star.
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