jvirk
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Thanks a bunch...don't worry, the suffering doesn't last forever. Hope you guys get your hometown boy Auston Matthews next year!
Roster Speculation 2015-16 Part IV
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Thanks a bunch...don't worry, the suffering doesn't last forever. Hope you guys get your hometown boy Auston Matthews next year!
Paxon
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With the log jam at forward, I wouldn't be totally shocked if Reinhart was in Rochester. But if he is ready and shows it, he's gotta stay up.
If he stays, and there are no takers on coho and we buy him out, maybe it's someone like moulson that is moved for a Dman.
If he stays, and there are no takers on coho and we buy him out, maybe it's someone like moulson that is moved for a Dman.
jamers
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I think there's definitely a chance. I don't think any forwards will be gifted a roster spot on this team, and if he still has a way to go at training camp, it might make the most sense. Give him time to add strength and work on his game in the pros at a lower level... I like that idea more than trading him for a LHD to be honest.
That said, I would also be surprised if Hodgson isn't bought out, and that plus any possible trades might open up a spot in the roster for him.
if Reinhart does start in Rochester, I want a few heavy hitters to be on the team to give him space and make sure anyone who thinks its open season on top draft picks gets a busted a nose for it.
Murray has setup the Sabres for some potential asset gains with Legwand and McGinn. Assuming we are out of the playoff race at the deadline, we may be able to get a few draft picks to really ease the up front price we paid for Lehner and O'Reilly.
Sabrebuild, as always your knack for leaping into a convo to relay Josh's position is appreciated and admirable. And I mean that very respectfully.
Nevertheless, at this stage it'd probably be more useful if Josh himself sent a pm to follow-up should he feel it's even necessary, rather than us inadvertently hijack the thread further with a fresh debate over your add-on interpretation of my character and intellect. Thanks.
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cgf
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Don't think he has value, or think the team needs him too much?
Cause I couldn't say I wouldn't be extremly excited to see you guys break camp with this top 9:
Girgensons - ROR - Eichel
Foligno- Larsson - Kane
McGinn - Reinhart - Ennis
1st line:
Girgensons - ROR - Eichel
I would throw Eichel into the fire because of how much more advanced he is physically/skating-wise than Samson. So I'd break him in on a line that'll see the toughest match ups, but lets him ease into that by starting on the wing with two of the best young two-way forwards you could ask for to do the heavy lifting on that line. Which would let Eich just fly and find his offensive game in the NHL, before taking on the greater defensive responsibilities he'll have to bare when he becomes a full-time Center. A Landeskog - ROR - MacKinnon line almost dragged us into the playoffs in the west despite rolling with Guenin-Barrie/Hejda-Redmond/Holden-Stuart as our defensive pairings after the Allstar break (due to EJ's injury). They almost pulled it off by dominating all over the ice and each going ~PPG over the last ~35 games (only 10-15 for MacK since his season was ended early to). A Girgs - ROR - Eichel line would have a lot of similar elements working for it and could be a similarly dominant unit for you this season.
I get the impulse to want Eichel to play where he's going to end up anyway right off the bat, but letting him get his feet wet, seeing how hard it is as the go to line, while still gaining confidence in his ability to dominate the NHL offensively like he did every other level is the way to go in my eyes. The time on the wing didn't hurt Seguin one bit and MacKinnon is likely going to start this season on the wing despite already having two NHL campaigns under his belt. I see all three of these kids as having a lot of similar strengths, so it would seem a good way to get Eichel started as well.
2nd Line:
Foligno- Larsson - Kane
With the third line getting sheltered this line will also have to handle tough assignments. Fortunately Foligno and Larsson are good at that and Kane is very much a guy who generates his own offense to give this line real teeth on both ends of the ice while helping drive possession. With Foligno going to the net and Kane shooting on sight, Larsson could find some fine success on this gritty line that scores a lot of garbage goals.
3rd Line:
McGinn - Reinhart - Ennis
Give Reinhart's line heavy ozone starts against lower competition, with Ennis to help him create, and a big boy there to make room from them, shoot, and bang in garbage goals. As a more cerebral prospect than Eichel who's not very physically developed/overwhelming, I think he'd do better getting eased into the NHL as a Center facing lower lines with quality line mates (Ennis a genuine top 6 winger and McGinn a good middle 6er).
That's two awesome two-way lines and an offensive third line that gets sheltered until Reinhart becomes the defender he should grow into. Adding Moulson for one of the big boys either makes that third line charmin soft, or means that second line is much less likely to be very effective at facing the toughest minutes and heavy dzone starts. So I'd think Moulson was someone you guys would do well to move in a trade if he still holds value.
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Paxon
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Neither. I think they won't move him because they just brought him back. We traded him at the deadline and he chose to return to our garbage team because he liked the city, ownership, etc so much, thought this would be a great place to achieve some stability (5 year contract). It'd be tough to turn around and dump him a year later. I'd like to move him personally to free up forward room, recoup some assets/and or package for a D, but he should do well here the next couple of years.
Digable5
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Didn't Murray already say in a press conference that he expects Reinhart to be in the NHL next year? I thought I heard WGR talk about it and it is also mentioned in this article:
http://www.diebytheblade.com/2015/6...ns-buffalo-sabres-youngsters-reinhart-zadorov
I was under the impression it was already decided.
I think spreading Kane, McGinn, Girgensons, Foligno and Deslauriers throughout the lineup should allow plenty of muscle to protect the stars Ennis, Eichel, Reinhart, etc...
Kane-Eichel-O'Reilly
Ennis-Larsson-Moulson
Girgensons-Reinhart-Gionta
McGinn-Foligno-Deslauriers
That is a good, deep forward group.
????-Bogosian
Gorges-Ristolainen
Weber-Pysyk
The right side of the defense is set. The left side could use some improvement and maybe some offense? I like the thought of trading for Daley. What would it take to get him? Adding Daley and Sekera to push Weber to #7 and giving McCabe another year to grow/provide depth with Ruhwedel is good for every reason.
Lehner
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I'm excited. Let's drop the puck.
Revelate
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I thought it was a limited NTC? (EDIT: And Gionta with the NMC)
Anyone perhaps have a better site for these things?
cgf
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Makes sense. Forget about the whole coming back thing with him. Still would rather see your top 9 without him so you can load up on the two way play around your kids and try the Foligno-Larsson-Kane line, but that would be a dick move. Guess either Ennis gets moved for that LHD Murray wants with moulson slotting in next to Reinhart (not expecting that), or one of Foligno/McGinn start on the 4th line (the more likely scenario)...which isn't exactly a bad place to be given that injuries are actually a thing lol
I think TM did comment on Reinhart's progress being possibly NHL ready (didn't check out your link), but he's commented about a lot of things before, during and after bringing in new players so perhaps some of his speculation will be adjusted as things continue to unfold...
He also said, btw, that Girgensens was "top 6", and really I guess I find it hard to fathom he'd be put to a 3rd line winger. There's also O'Reilly who has been declared as the 1C to start things off, and Legwand and McCormick (dunno about his injury status) who are natural centers and who will likely displace Foligno from continuing that experiment?
I like your thing about trying to spread out some of the power/strength, but that second line is exposed with only rookie Larsson to account for the defensive games of both Moulson and Ennis.
Husko
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I'm thinking:
Line 1: Kane-ROR-Girgensons: All the possessions line
Line 2: Moulson-Eichel-Ennis: All the offensive starts
Line3 3A: Foligno-Reinhart-Gionta: Easiest matchups
Line 3B: Des-Larsson-McGinn: Defensive zone starts and difficult checking matchups
Line 1: Kane-ROR-Girgensons: All the possessions line
Line 2: Moulson-Eichel-Ennis: All the offensive starts
Line3 3A: Foligno-Reinhart-Gionta: Easiest matchups
Line 3B: Des-Larsson-McGinn: Defensive zone starts and difficult checking matchups
Hmm... that actually looks good (well, although I'd still swap Ennis and Girgensens)... how'd you do it? Who'd you leave off altogether?
Husko
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Right! Sheesh, duh on me. And McCormick, but who knows how his injury looks.
Otherwise looks snazzy, except maybe swapping Girgensens and Ennis, giving Eichel some power on the wing if/when he's mulled. Ennis will always try to stand up for his rookie mate but isn't exactly huge himself and Moulson, well, he'll just chew the mouth guard, lol
Kane-ROR-Ennis : All the possessions line
Moulson-Eichel-Girgensons: All the offensive starts
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Rhett4
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A few people in here aren't taking injuries and things happening throughout the year into account too well. For example, just because Moulson doesn't fit in some imaginary top-six LW role on these fantasy rosters doesn't mean he needs to be immediately moved. It's a nice luxury to have such a potentially deep forward core, but now isn't the time to run guys out of town so that the roster looks clean on paper.
Rhett4
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Well-thought roster with lots of flexibility. In the event Reinhart spends time in the AHL, you could easily insert Legwand and slide Larsson up. If Hodgson is still on the roster, that adds additional flexibility and likely ensures Reinhart gets some development time. (I go could either way on where Reinhart will be.) It will be interesting to see what other moves come along.
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