Roster Speculation 2013-14 Part III

[jfb392]

If his contract expires, he's fair game.

If it expires in a year or two, I think he can be drafted, just not brought over.

Older players were eligible to be drafted under pre-2005 CBA's, but since then, the oldest a player can be is 22.

Isn't this the same situation as Brunner. He wasn't drafted before he signed for the red wings.

Brunner was a different because he came from a league that had a transfer agreement with the NHL (at the time anyways, one is not currently in place AFAIK), meaning all contracts had NHL out clauses that could be used from the end of the season until around the middle of August.
The KHL doesn't have one and out clauses are forbidden, so they only way a player can get out of a contract is via mutual termination or a buyout paid by the player.

Kovar's contract expires 4/30/2016.

 

[Rebirth]

The key is if his contract has expired or not, I believe.

Ok, in Kovar's case the KHL contract expires 2016 so i guess he'll be over in Russia until then unless he has some kind of out clause.

 

[Rebirth]

Older players were eligible to be drafted under pre-2005 CBA's, but since then, the oldest a player can be is 22.

Brunner was a different because he came from a league that had a transfer agreement with the NHL (at the time anyways, one is not currently in place AFAIK), meaning all contracts had NHL out clauses that could be used from the end of the season until around the middle of August.
The KHL doesn't have one and out clauses are forbidden, so they only way a player can get out of a contract is via mutual termination or a buyout paid by the player.

Kovar's contract expires 4/30/2016.

Ok thanks

 

[OkimLom]

The kid is 16, this year is his first year in the WHL. I posted an article a few posts above that explained Barzal a bit but I will re-quote it for you.

source: http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/jr...enson-lead-whl-offensive-surge-232710063.html

I also found some footage from a scout reel during one of his games pre WHL



Another article written on Barzal


source: - http://hockeynow.ca/major-junior/barzal-living-up-to-billing-as-top-2-pick-for-2015-draft

Thanks

 

[Ness]

Haven't been following Rochester much this year. Who are the next call-ups if Moulson/Ott/Tallinder/whoever else are moved at the deadline? Armia? Catenacci?

 

[ZeroPT*]

Haven't been following Rochester much this year. Who are the next call-ups if Moulson/Ott/Tallinder/whoever else are moved at the deadline? Armia? Catenacci?

I'm sure Pysyk will be recalled post olympic break. I personnally would like to see girgs moved down for the AHL playoffs or earlier in order to regain offensive confidence. Is Latvia in the WC's this year?

 

[stokes84]

Haven't been following Rochester much this year. Who are the next call-ups if Moulson/Ott/Tallinder/whoever else are moved at the deadline? Armia? Catenacci?

There will be salary coming back, which means bodies.

 

[Jacob582]

Leo Komarov

As a fan, would you want the Sabres to sign Leo Komarov for next season? We may need his agitating style depending on the status of our other players: Ott (trade?), McCormick (UFA), Kaleta (suspension history), Konopka (UFA- is he an agitator?).

An unrestricted free agent this summer, Komarov is open to returning to the Leafs and the city of Toronto, but he appears more focused on simply getting back into the NHL however possible.

http://www.tsn.ca/toronto/blogs/jonas_siegel/?id=443384

 

[ZeroPT*]

As a fan, would you want the Sabres to sign Leo Komarov for next season? We may need his agitating style depending on the status of our other players: Ott (trade?), McCormick (UFA), Kaleta (suspension history), Konopka (UFA- is he an agitator?).


http://www.tsn.ca/toronto/blogs/jonas_siegel/?id=443384

would be a good signing. Didn't he price himself out of Toronto?

 

[Heraldic]

As a fan, would you want the Sabres to sign Leo Komarov for next season? We may need his agitating style depending on the status of our other players: Ott (trade?), McCormick (UFA), Kaleta (suspension history), Konopka (UFA- is he an agitator?).


http://www.tsn.ca/toronto/blogs/jonas_siegel/?id=443384

I think he is definitely worth a shot. Can be useful fourth liner, but has also potential to be effective in the more offensive lines as well. Is also a "character guy". Give him two year deal with about 1,5 million. Lose practically nothing but have an opportunity to have a useful player.

 

[Revelate]

I'm sure Pysyk will be recalled post olympic break. I personnally would like to see girgs moved down for the AHL playoffs or earlier in order to regain offensive confidence. Is Latvia in the WC's this year?

i'm skeptical about that. i think Murray view McNabb and Pysyk as future pieces of this rebuild and wants them to go on a playoff run paired together.

Ruhwedel definitely comes back though.

 

[joshjull]

i'm skeptical about that. i think Murray view McNabb and Pysyk as future pieces of this rebuild and wants them to go on a playoff run paired together.

Ruhwedel definitely comes back though.

You really think so?

I know he mentioned him a few times after talking about Risto, Zads and Pysyk but I'm wondering if its to keep teams interested for trade purposes.

 

[slip]

I'm sure Pysyk will be recalled post olympic break. I personnally would like to see girgs moved down for the AHL playoffs or earlier in order to regain offensive confidence. Is Latvia in the WC's this year?

He was a man among boys last year in Rochester, I don't see the point of sending him down now. You don't demote guys who throw 13 checks in a game, even if they're struggling to find the back of the net on one of the worst offensive teams in the past 4 decades.

 

[Revelate]

You really think so?

I know he mentioned him a few times after talking about Risto, Zads and Pysyk but I'm wondering if its to keep teams interested for trade purposes.

edit: misread the post.


yes, i do. i think he values his willingness to jump in the play and carry the puck.

 

[joshjull]

He was a man among boys last year in Rochester, I don't see the point of sending him down now. You don't demote guys who throw 13 checks in a game, even if they're struggling to find the back of the net on one of the worst offensive teams in the past 4 decades.

That exactly why you send them down. Offensive confidence is an elusive thing and any chance to build it should be taken. That he hits a lot is not an adequate reason to keep him here. That's just part of his overall skill package that needs developing.

He was a man among boys for a very small window. Lets not act like he is above the AHL at this point.

 

[toejam56]

Double edged sword here.
If Buffalo can shed dead wood in Sulzer, Tallinder and McBain and recall Pysyk, McNabb and Ruh....because...wait for it...they are better.....then Rochester defense is gutted and Rochester fan starts crying because the Sabres don't care and Rochester won't make the playoffs and win the Calder.....
If the timing is right, Rochester gets Austin and maybe McCabe though.
added-Girgs should be made eligible to help Rochester make the playoffs.

 

[joshjull]

edit: misread the post.


yes, i do. i think he values his willingness to jump in the play and carry the puck.

Fair enough.

 

[joshjull]

Double edged sword here.
If Buffalo can shed dead wood in Sulzer, Tallinder and McBain and recall Pysyk, McNabb and Ruh....because...wait for it...they are better.....then Rochester defense is gutted and Rochester fan starts crying because the Sabres don't care and Rochester won't make the playoffs and win the Calder.....
If the timing is right, Rochester gets Austin and maybe McCabe though.
added-Girgs should be made eligible to help Rochester make the playoffs.

They are not looking to get rid of people at the deadline. They are looking to gain assets for players that have value. Sulzer isn't going anywhere nor is McBain. Tallinder is likely going because he has value.

 

[toejam56]

They are not looking to get rid of people at the deadline. They are looking to gain assets for players that have value. Sulzer isn't going anywhere nor is McBain. Tallinder is likely going because he has value.

Read where Calgary's resigning or Russell upped the value of Tallinder. Thats good.
Just because we think McBain sucks, somebody might think he provides depth. Caveot emptor...
Sulzer.....well....he just sucks. Waive him to Rochester. Give Ruh/McNabb/Pysyk some NHL time.

 

[joshjull]

Read where Calgary's resigning or Russell upped the value of Tallinder. Thats good.
Just because we think McBain sucks, somebody might think he provides depth. Caveot emptor...
Sulzer.....well....he just sucks. Waive him to Rochester. Give Ruh/McNabb/Pysyk some NHL time.

I feel incredibly confident he will not be someone teams are looking to bolster their roster for the playoffs with. Plus he is a RFA so we have team control and he adds depth for next season. He isn't going anywhere.

Not to mention your goal of getting Ruh/McNabb/Psysk all up here is not really a goal the team needs to be worrying about right now. The goal at the deadline is to maximize assets not open roster spots for youngsters. One may lead to the other but its not the focal point.

 

[SundherDome]

They are not looking to get rid of people at the deadline. They are looking to gain assets for players that have value. Sulzer isn't going anywhere nor is McBain. Tallinder is likely going because he has value.

Tallinder will be moved I could see a team taking a flyer on McBain in maybe a hockey trade and then Sulzer as maybe a throw in, but our throw in could be syd or Parker.

 

[toejam56]

I feel incredibly confident he will not be someone teams are looking to bolster their roster for the playoffs with. Plus he is a RFA so we have team control and he adds depth for next season. He isn't going anywhere.

Not to mention your goal of getting Ruh/McNabb/Psysk all up here is not really a goal the team needs to be worrying about right now. The goal at the deadline is to maximize assets not open roster spots for youngsters. One may lead to the other but its not the focal point.

I don't think getting all 3 up to the NHL is the plan, but if Tallinder goes, rotate them up/down.
Plus...as it seems...there will be injuries...
My convoluted point was even if they wanted all 3 up with Buffalo, they will take into account Rochesters needs.

 

[ZeroPT*]

i'm skeptical about that. i think Murray view McNabb and Pysyk as future pieces of this rebuild and wants them to go on a playoff run paired together.

Ruhwedel definitely comes back though.

Well, in some of the interviews where he was asked what kind of team he wants to build, GMTM has said he likes good puck moving defensman and D-men with good passing. Sounds like Pysyk to me.

He was a man among boys last year in Rochester, I don't see the point of sending him down now. You don't demote guys who throw 13 checks in a game, even if they're struggling to find the back of the net on one of the worst offensive teams in the past 4 decades.

As JoshJull already said, he has more to learn in the AHL, than in the NHL at this point. I'd like to develop his offensive game some more.

 

[sba]

@adater: Ryan O'Reilly will not be traded this season, per sources

 

[wunderpanda]

As a fan, would you want the Sabres to sign Leo Komarov for next season? We may need his agitating style depending on the status of our other players: Ott (trade?), McCormick (UFA), Kaleta (suspension history), Konopka (UFA- is he an agitator?).


http://www.tsn.ca/toronto/blogs/jonas_siegel/?id=443384

Komarov would be a welcome addition to this team, Burmistrov too. I would hope the Sabres would look into it