Salary Cap: Roster-Building thread XXXI: Trading for Lupus? Not a typo Edition
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Worth it if we can make Sundqvist a winger. Sundqvist is 6'4 i think, Hanzal 6'6, then get Matthias who's 6'4. Then keep Winnik around for our 4th line, or 3rd if we are bringing Sundqvist along slowly. Maybe target Bernier who's 6'4 and find another tall guy to finish off the bottom 6 who also throws his body around. It's time to stop collecting whatever we can get for our roster and become a big team or we will just get pushed around by the teams in the Metro because we are small and soft.
The Old Master
come and take it.
its more of a case that he likes to slow the play down [like Geno] more that go pedal to the metal like Sid. and that's why I was surprised to see him with Sid instead of Malkin
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I think you are being a little hard on Sutter. He seems pretty good defensively to me.
I want to root for him when he's doing well offensively, but it just doesn't happen in consistently enough. So it's okay if he's traded.
He looked pretty darn okay last year, at least for most of the second half of the seasonn
SprootsMasterFlex
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Just now on "That's Hockey" on TSN, LeBrun said that he spoke to several GMs around the league and they were shocked when they heard how much the Pens paid for Winnik. it was way too high for a rental player like him. As a result, it pushed up Dave Tallon's price to acquire Jagr.
GMJR, seriously, WTF?
GMJR, seriously, WTF?
Glad I'm not the only one who constantly said that it was a brutal trade and that he wasn't worth what Toronto was asking.
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Hey, at least everyone else has to up the ante also!
If we pay, they must pay.
All part of the plan. Now when GMJR ships out Martin, he'll get a bigger haul as well. Get a 1st back even?
We paid more for the salary retention. There weren't many other players we could have got without making some moves. That's where it gets complicated.
Say he moved Kunitz to open up space to get another player and we get trumped in a deal and get no one. Winnik was a deal that was simple enough and he's a pretty good player too.
There were 6 fs drafted after BB. Sheahan, Kevin Hayes, Kuznetsov, Coyle, Etem and Brock Nelson. You can take your pick of which are better than BB. I would have any one on my team over BB.
To get a top 6 F for next year, JR has to pull a GOGO for Neal or Whitney for Kunitz deal. However, he has limited assets to do this. IMO, its going to take giving up either Maata or Pouliett to do it.
Drafting both BB and Joe Morrow instead of Saad are reasons Shero is gone.
To get a top 6 F for next year, JR has to pull a GOGO for Neal or Whitney for Kunitz deal. However, he has limited assets to do this. IMO, its going to take giving up either Maata or Pouliett to do it.
Drafting both BB and Joe Morrow instead of Saad are reasons Shero is gone.
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I had this argument last week that salary retention was going to cost the Pens if it happened. I'm not sure why anyone thought otherwise. Other teams are not out to do the Pens favors.
This deal could have been done if Sill was sent down though I believe. Hard to tell exactly without Capgeek. So as others already pointed out, why would he pay the price for retention if he didn't have another move in mind?
Guess we will see.
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He'd be worth it. I'd give up plenty to have that beast on our 3rd line for the next few years at that price.
He can line up against the biggest, baddest centers in the game and come out on top.
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Way i see it is JR really wanted Winnik and was comfortable with what he has as prospects: Kapanen, Sundqvist, Bennett still. All of the good possible tweener guys: Rust, Wilson, Archibald. All of his top end D-prospects still in the fold and 2 good goalie prospects in Murray and Jarry.
He was willing to pay the 2nd rounder cuz of the names mentioned above and the Pens being in win now mode. He doesn't have that, he's probably not as willing.
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Those GM's don't know our cap situation, we also got him for 50% off which means the price goes up and because it's 50% off we have enough room to do atleast 1 more move.
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Yotes are also rebuilding, can't see Hanzal staying for the return they can get.
It keeps his options open. We probably would have been giving up a 3rd instead of the 2nd anyway
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Hard to say. He's still young and exactly the sort of player you'd want to have your younger players learn from. He does so much right.
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Wouldn't shock me in the slightest if Sutter were to be moved. Sutter's biggest value to this team is on the PK, however with the acquisition of Winnick we've also managed to acquire one of the top penalty killers in the league. Move Sutter, bump Spaling up to 3C, and have a bit of fun with the cap space we've now opened up.
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Speaking of which, are there any names circulating around the league as potentially fitting that 2nd like RW criteria? What's the rumor mill saying these days?
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