Salary Cap: Roster-Building thread XXX: The NSFW edition

[Stad]

Borterill scouting Letestu?

 

[roquay]

I have the new thread ready to roll put i want you guys to come up with a snazzy title:

Roster-Building thread XXXI: The Packing Kunitz's Bags Edition ?
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Trading for Lupus? Not a typo Edition

Kunitz going? Crosby to LTIR-Broken Heart Edition

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Last year Toronto did have 3 they were retaining I don't know if any have come off yet. It was Scrivens, Frattin and somebody else. So maybe they can't retain any salary or want to save it if they only have 1.

Scrivens re-signed a new deal with Edmonton, making that one non-existent now. Frattin doesn't count anymore either because he's now back with the organization so they aren't retaining a salary, they're just flat out paying the guy 100%, I can't remember if LA re-signed him or not though, NHLNumbers isn't accurate at all.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

I can't remember if LA re-signed him or not though, NHLNumbers isn't accurate at all.

Yes. It's a very poor substitute.

I keep hearing that there are a couple of different groups working on legit replacements for CapGeek. But we'll see. I think maybe the idea was even floated by the NHL (to be placed on the official site). But I don't think anything came of it.

 

[WayneSid9987]

Trading for Lupus? Not a typo Edition

Kunitz going? Crosby to LTIR-Broken Heart Edition

Oh man these are good.
I'll go with the Lupus one.

 

[Michael8771*]

Nope.

From the CBA:

http://www.nhl.com/nhl/en/v3/ext/CBA2012/NHL_NHLPA_2013_CBA.pdf



Since it says "remaining term", I believe you cannot only do 1 year of salary retention.

I didn't think so, but thanks guys for confirming it.

 

[Jag68Sid87]

Yeah, i thought about that, but it seems weird to me to send Botterill out for a normal scouting assignment.

Especially when you consider both teams that are playing are sellers.

Well, if Botterill isn't a regular to go scouting, they're probably going all hands on deck with all of our other scouts because there's a week before the deadline...so they needed Botterill to do some advanced scouting.

That would be my guess.

 

[Riptide]

No one has given (to this point) a conclusive answer. And I myself should know this but don't. But can a team retain salary for this season and not the remaining years?

I have several times . It's either for the duration of the existing contract or nothing. You also can't change the amounts being retained. It's a fixed % of the cap (and an equal % of the salary).

 

[Michael8771*]

Borterill scouting Letestu?

If that's the case then maybe Sutter is moved in a separate deal. We can hope so anyhow.

 

[Michael8771*]

I have several times . It's either for the duration of the existing contract or nothing. You also can't change the amounts being retained. It's a fixed % of the cap (and an equal % of the salary).

My apologies Rip, I thought that was the case but I wasn't 100% sure. Sorry that I missed your posts on the matter previously.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

The smart play would be to send Sutter to the biggest rival. So the Pens can then exploit their massively weak 3rd line with him.

 

[redsono93]

What about Skinner? I didn't realize he's only 22. I know he's had injury woes but kid has skills. Needs out of Carolina.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

What about Skinner? I didn't realize he's only 22. I know he's had injury woes but kid has skills. Needs out of Carolina.

They have no reason to trade a kid that can still produce, is that young, and it's a year where the Canes are looking as a write off and will re-tool bits here and there in the summer/draft day.

Now Francis is saying he's not going to move Staal either, which is a good PR move because to say he would means he's giving up and re-doing everything, I still think the Pens can get Staal back in the summer/draft. I want this season to end so that can happen.

 

[Wes C Addle]

Bergenheim to Minny

 

[SprootsMasterFlex]

http://wild.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=754953

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Bergenheim to Minny

Well, there goes the guy everyone here wanted. Now watch some idiot over pay for Winnik, I think Bergenheim is the better player.

 

[WayneSid9987]

Good player. Well atleast he went out West.

 

[eXile59]

Well, there goes the guy everyone here wanted. Now watch some idiot over pay for Winnik, I think Bergenheim is the better player.

I didn't want to overpay for either of them but a 3rd sounds like a decent deal. I wouldn't go over that for either of them.

 

[drpepper]

If Pens were looking to add offense Bergenheim is a better bet than Winnik.

Winnik is a defensive specialist who can PK. Hope the Pens don't overpay based on his size which he doesn't really use that consistently.

And it was 2016 picks:

" Minnesota has acquired forward Sean Bergenheim and a 2016 seventh-round draft pick from the Florida Panthers in exchange for the Wild’s 2016 third-round selection."

 

[WayneSid9987]

Must be nice to have that cap space. Heh.
Minny already has a slew of wingers too.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Must be nice to have that cap space. Heh.
Minny already has a slew of wingers too.

On paper the Wild should be a top 5 team in the West, but man do they under perform offensively big time.

 

[Michael8771*]

Seems like pretty fair value. Good trade for both teams I guess.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

I didn't want to overpay for either of them but a 3rd sounds like a decent deal. I wouldn't go over that for either of them.

I feel like Nonis will try to sell high on Winnik and still end up getting a 2nd as his worst deal for him.

 

[roquay]

If Pens were looking to add offense Bergenheim is a better bet than Winnik.

Winnik is a defensive specialist who can PK. Hope the Pens don't overpay based on his size which he doesn't really use that consistently.

And it was 2016 picks:

" Minnesota has acquired forward Sean Bergenheim and a 2016 seventh-round draft pick from the Florida Panthers in exchange for the Wild’s 2016 third-round selection."

Yeah I mentioned earlier that our bottom six scoring is not good. Even with Winnik that'd be 43 goals for the bottom 6 for the year.

When we had Staal our third line alone would average about a goal a game.

 

[WayneSid9987]

Once this gets locked up, i'll hit post on the new thread. It's ready to roll.