Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XXXI

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[Kakko Schmakko]

Niku? Stanley? How many Dmen prospects do we need?

 

[Thirty One]

Niku? Stanley? How many Dmen prospects do we need?

Breaking news: Rangers asked for more than they got.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Breaking news: Rangers asked for more than they got.

Yeah, who do people think we are? Ottawa?

 

[Kupo]

Niku? Stanley? How many Dmen prospects do we need?

As many as possible!

Look at what all the forward players went for this deadline opposed to lesser talented Dmen. Crazy.

Look at our team. Who’s our minute eating, multi-purpose dman that can play in any situation and against anyone for 25+ minutes a game? PP+PO, up 1 or down 1 last minute of the game?

We might have our future Stud Goalie in Shesty, our offensive guys in Zbad, Kravtsov, Chytil..

The only potential stud dman, is Miller.

That’s why I wouldn’t complain one bit if we somehow land a top-5 pick and selected Byram. And that’s why I wouldn’t mind seeing us target a dman in a trade.

 

[duhmetreE]

There's a trade to be had with Calgary, if we're looking for a dman. btw where the f*** did this Giordano come from? 35 years old and peaking

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

The only player who got a player near that caliber was Stone WITH extension (Brannstrom is better but you get my point).

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

The only player who got a player near that caliber was Stone WITH extension (Brannstrom is better but you get my point).

And they didn’t even get a 1st or a pick from this year’s draft included. Market prices were pretty f***ing tight this year overall. We got the two best packages outside of Duchene/Stone, and I’d say that’s about right.

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

As many as possible!

Look at what all the forward players went for this deadline opposed to lesser talented Dmen. Crazy.

Look at our team. Who’s our minute eating, multi-purpose dman that can play in any situation and against anyone for 25+ minutes a game? PP+PO, up 1 or down 1 last minute of the game?

We might have our future Stud Goalie in Shesty, our offensive guys in Zbad, Kravtsov, Chytil..

The only potential stud dman, is Miller.

That’s why I wouldn’t complain one bit if we somehow land a top-5 pick and selected Byram. And that’s why I wouldn’t mind seeing us target a dman in a trade.

Weren't Lundkvist, Keane, DeAngelo, Skjei, Hajek, Rykov, etc also supposed to be studs?

I did not see what was the difference between what forwards went for and what Dmen. This trade deadline just sucked.

Enough with Dmen, we got a ton of prospects (and I am sure we will draft more this draft) and we got 3 veterans stuck for 2 more seasons with bad contracts.

 

[trilobyte]

The only player who got a player near that caliber was Stone WITH extension (Brannstrom is better but you get my point).

The NHL is so much about money and contracts. I totally admit I hate that part of it the most.

 

[bleedblue94]

It's the shift in nhl currency value. 1sts and prospects use to be expendable, now they are often more valuable than veteran players due to their potential low cap costs.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

It's the shift in nhl currency value. 1sts and prospects use to be expendable, now they are often more valuable than veteran players due to their potential low cap costs.

100%...at this rate eventually the value is going to shift too far IMO if it hasn't already.

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

It's the shift in nhl currency value. 1sts and prospects use to be expendable, now they are often more valuable than veteran players due to their potential low cap costs.

they are still expendable for those teams that are desperate to win a Cup.

 

[Machinehead]

Ultimately, if they got one of those prospects, they weren't getting the 1st. We chose the 1st.

I'm absolutely fine with that. I don't think Winnipeg has any outstanding prospects to the extent that they're better than a 1st in a loaded draft.

 

[Machinehead]

they are still expendable for those teams that are desperate to win a Cup.

Apparently not because the Rangers were the only team to get a 1st on deadline day.

 

[RGY]

Niku? Stanley? How many Dmen prospects do we need?

I dont get the reason or point of Dreger’s comments. To stir the pot? To explain how you can request a certain price but may not get it? Geez

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

Apparently not because the Rangers were the only team to get a 1st on deadline day.

Ducks got a 1st, Sens got a 1st, and a month ago Kings got a 1st. Tampa and probably some other teams would have traded a 1st if they were not tied up with conditions.

 

[Kupo]

Weren't Lundkvist, Keane, DeAngelo, Skjei, Hajek, Rykov, etc also supposed to be studs?

I did not see what was the difference between what forwards went for and what Dmen. This trade deadline just sucked.

Enough with Dmen, we got a ton of prospects (and I am sure we will draft more this draft) and we got 3 veterans stuck for 2 more seasons with bad contracts.

None of the players you listed have/had elite defensive expectations with exceptional puck management skills.

The only defensive prospect we have in our pipeline that has a true, elite ceiling is Miller.

This team needs a true #1 dman as much, or possibly more than a potential 1C.. Especially when you consider we have Zbad playing great hockey.

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

None of the players you listed have/had elite defensive expectations with exceptional puck management skills.

The only defensive prospect we have in our pipeline that has a true, elite ceiling is Miller.

This team needs a true #1 dman as much, or possibly more than a potential 1C.. Especially when you consider we have Zbad playing great hockey.

you won't get one from trading for some solid prospect (see Hajek, Rykov, Lindgren, etc.) or by using a bunch of mid rounds draft picks to select them.

 

[Beacon]

if we are rebuilding then Howden, Chytil and Kravtsov should be playing, right?

No, it means we acquire a whole bunch of other guys like Howden, Chytil and Kravtsov, and then let them develop properly.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Breaking news: Rangers asked for more than they got.

Negotiations 101. But fans will try to turn this into a negative thing for Gorton

 

[Blue Blooded]

None of the players you listed have/had elite defensive expectations with exceptional puck management skills.

The only defensive prospect we have in our pipeline that has a true, elite ceiling is Miller.

This team needs a true #1 dman as much, or possibly more than a potential 1C.. Especially when you consider we have Zbad playing great hockey.

DeAngelo has a higher ceiling than Miller.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

No, it means we acquire a whole bunch of other guys like Howden, Chytil and Kravtsov, and then let them develop properly.

And developing them in the right environment. Playing bottom-6 minutes on a lottery team in the NHL is not going to help a player like Kravtsov, yet the Rangers seem determined to bring him over as soon as possible. I just don't agree with that strategy.

Lias should have stayed in Sweden after the WJC last year, but he was forced onto the Wolf Pack team. Unless their current league is clearly inferior to the AHL (Czech Extraliga in Chytil's case), leave them in their own environment.

Lias with Frolunda
Kravtsov with Traktor
Kovacs with Rögle

Historically, that strategy has worked better with teenagers from Europe. The AHL isn't better than SHL or KHL. Let them marinate in their own environment.

 

[Vitto79]

DeAngelo has a higher ceiling than Miller.

Is everyone really confident that deAngelo is gonna stick and keep improving ? I really hope so just surprised he’s been much better lately .... maybe I shouldn’t be cause he’s still young but earlier in the year Pionk was ahead of him

As for the Hayes deal who else got a 1st for a rental ? Duchene only I think plus Lemieux will be a good feisty bottom 6 guy

 

[Vitto79]

How good is Adam Fox? Ufa soon and from NY right ?