I was posting on the Trade board, thinking i was here. oops.
This leads to some intrigue. Petro & Parayko are clearly ahead of him on the the right-side...and Schmaltz is knocking on the door. So chances of Bortuzzo ever becoming a full-time guy likely will depend on an injury. However, he has exceeded expectations this year and has proven to be a very valuable guy. I'd even go so far as to say he's exceeded Edmundson's and Gunnarsson's performance, though Bort has been more sheltered than Gunnar.
So...does Bortuzzo get protected in the Expansion Draft? His handedness might become a determining factor, as you may not want to protect a 3rd-pairing RHD at the expense of a top-4 LHD...but it's an interesting thought. If he comes back healthy, stays healthy, and continues performing at the level he's shown this year...he's got value to this club.
The team are also obligated to expose a certain amount of experienced players. I think Bortuzzo is the 7th man going forward, will be exposed to the expansion draft, and helps the team meet that requirement.
I don't see how this impacts on Shattenkirk's situation either way, although I do think the trade talks with Shattenkirk must be heating up a bit based on the rumor mill.
I worry about the left side of our D. I just don't see Edmundson as a top 4 D, and I think Gunnar is exposed in the expansion. Bortz is most likely our bottom pairing guy next year to bridge for our up and coming prospects.
I hope Army gets creative and can flip Shatty for an exempt, LHD...like a Travis Sanheim or Sam Morin. That would go a long way to rebalancing our blueline and preparing us for the ED.
The team are also obligated to expose a certain amount of experienced players. I think Bortuzzo is the 7th man going forward, will be exposed to the expansion draft, and helps the team meet that requirement.
I don't see how this impacts on Shattenkirk's situation either way, although I do think the trade talks with Shattenkirk must be heating up a bit based on the rumor mill.
Each team has to expose 1 d-man that's under contract for next season that either 1) plays 40+ games this season or 2) 70+ games this season and last season combined.
One of Edmundson or Gunnarsson would've already met that requirement so now they'll have 2 of the 3 exposed. It also allows them to trade one of the 3 and still be expansion draft compliant (not that I see one of the 3 being traded but just throwing that out there as an additional benifit to this signing).
Vegas could still choose Bortuzzo. He just wouldn't fulfill one of the Blues' obligations. Though Bortuzzo would only need 19 more GP this season to fulfill the 70/2 requirement, 14 if playoff games count.
I'm also not 100% convinced that Parayko is going to be exempt. He had 17 regular season games and 5 playoff games with Chicago in 14-15, and if that counts as a season, this is his third.
bort > ed
I hope Army gets creative and can flip Shatty for an exempt, LHD...like a Travis Sanheim or Sam Morin. That would go a long way to rebalancing our blueline and preparing us for the ED.
Let's just hope it doesn't flop with too much dysfunction.
Did anyone catch my joke?
ED = flip flop dysfunction
Get it?
Vegas could still choose Bortuzzo. He just wouldn't fulfill one of the Blues' obligations. Though Bortuzzo would only need 19 more GP this season to fulfill the 70/2 requirement, 14 if playoff games count.
I'm also not 100% convinced that Parayko is going to be exempt. He had 17 regular season games and 5 playoff games with Chicago in 14-15, and if that counts as a season, this is his third.
Disagree, Bort couldnt handle the assignment Ed has right now. Also Ed has some legit top 4 upside so he needs to play. I'd say Bort is safer right now but Ed can be used in more difficult roles.
lol what assignment? letting petro cover for him while he makes stupid decisions and takes stupid penalties?
Bort >>> Ed. you guys forget how much of a joke he was last spring. only shattenkirk was worse. I remember JR and Millbury just having a field day on Ed during the Dallas series? Why? because he made stupid plays like this brilliant one here for dallas first goal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcPxk-y_cDw
look, im not expecting much out of him as I see him as a fringe NHLer. but for whatever reason this forum GROSSLY overrates him and it needs to stop. He takes stupid penalties to top it off. Please stop saying this guy is a top 4 d man, hes not. Neither is Bort, but Bort plays his role much better, can actually chip in from time to time and doesnt take stupid penalties.
Well considering Edmundson is currently playing a top-4 role, Doesn't that by definition mean he's a top-4 defenseman.
Also, great job cherrypicking to back up an argument. I guess he'll never amount to anything because he made mistakes his first year in the NHL. Might as well throw out Parayko along with him after not pushing Horvat out of the crease that one time against Vancouver.
I agree that Bortuzzo and Edmundson are similar role players, but you are under the false impression that your hyperbole is factual or makes a cohesive argument.