Value of: RNH for Drouin swap, as a base

[Habs10025]

And the 3rd pick from 2013 has been worse. The habs aren't getting a center better then RNH is anyway either, you guys don't have the assets for a #1C and all the coveted FA's wouldn't sign there.

Sucks to suck.

Doesn't change the fact that Nugent Hopkins is an average # 2 center one of the worst 1st overall picks he hasn't lived up to expectations and never will .

 

[Habs10025]

Yet most of your teams posters on here would trade Gallagher for him .

Montreal isn't trading Gallagher .

 

[TT1]

terrible, no

 

[ConnorMcNugesaitl]

Doesn't change the fact that Nugent Hopkins is an average # 2 center one of the worst 1st overall picks he hasn't lived up to expectations and never will .

lol Habs fans, so thirsty yet so nasty.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

lol Habs fans, so thirsty yet so nasty.

to be fair it’s not all but a vocal minority is making the rest look awful.

You don’t dream of getting a 50-60 point two way C with 1st overall, but that doesn’t mean he’s getting dealt for a small inconsistent scoring winger that scores liess than Nuge, takes nights off, and is suspect defensively. RNH’s draft ranking is absolutely irrelevant right now.

And Habs fan that wouldn’t deal Drouin ++ or Gallagher + for a 25 year old fringe 1C with term is kidding themselves.

The Oilers aren’t looking to move Nuge and playing him on the wing is the best move going forward. McDavid/Drai are awesome but that’s also one injury away from Ryan Strome on the 2nd line if Nuge is gone.

 

[TheNumber4]

Drouin is a selfish pre-madonna type player. Would not trade RNH for him, especially since RNH can be the higher producing winger, or the better 2 way centerman.

 

[Habs10025]

lol Habs fans, so thirsty yet so nasty.

He's an average 2nd line center that's all he is.

 

[smirob]

I would do Gallagher + something smaller than most Edmonton fans would be interested in....and I love Gallagher in a Habs jersey...

I would not do Drouin ++ he hasn’t peaked yet, and I don’t think think that would be a good trade in a few years.

 

[Tom Brady]

RNH looked amazing on McDavid's wing, i wouldn't be surprised if he hits 75+ pts next year.

This trade make's the Oilers worse no doubt.

 

[voxel]

He's an average 2nd line center that's all he is.

And Drouin is a 2nd line winger at best - who gets HALF his points on the PP. You don't win with players like that... you stay in the basement. He reminds me of Gagner/Hodgson... PP specialists.

 

[OilerSuperstar17]

Doesn't change the fact that Nugent Hopkins is an average # 2 center one of the worst 1st overall picks he hasn't lived up to expectations and never will .

At least Nuge has been able to adapt his game. Sure he's not gonna be putting up 80-90 points a year like many thought he was going to but he sacrificed his offense to work on his defensive game during the stages where young players focus more on offensive abilities. You can keep Drouin. We'll gladly keep our Nugey and his baby moustache.

 

[KCC]

No chance
Drouin is worth more because of his potential

He’s worth more because of his potential? That doesn’t even make sense lol

 

[Markham30]

Could be a worse proposal, he could ask for a 19 year old future #2 defencemen (at worst) who just scored 40 points in his rookie year...

 

[jfhabs]

And Drouin is a 2nd line winger at best - who gets HALF his points on the PP. You don't win with players like that... you stay in the basement. He reminds me of Gagner/Hodgson... PP specialists.

Perfect for Edmonton

Just kidding, it was too easy

 

[jfhabs]

He’s worth more because of his potential? That doesn’t even make sense lol

Not going to argue on the trade, but that's pretty easy to understand. Players are worth higher draft pick hence value because they have more potential... same with young players

 

[Miller Time]

Would not make sense for Mtl.

I'd agree with most oiler fans that RNH is the better player and likely the better asset, but Habs are in need of a C for Drouin to play with, not to trade for.

 

[Habs10025]

And Drouin is a 2nd line winger at best - who gets HALF his points on the PP. You don't win with players like that... you stay in the basement. He reminds me of Gagner/Hodgson... PP specialists.

Nugent Hopkins is on a list of most disappointing 1st overall picks he belongs in Edmonton Average 2nd line center.

 

[KarmaPolice]

I think we've made it clear that it's a NO in this proposal, and we're very happy to keep RNH. We'll see how "disappointing" he is playing an entire season on McDavid's wing. I think we might be quite happy with the results; we have been so far.

This can safely be closed. Nothing much more to discuss, in all honesty.

 

[voxel]

Nugent Hopkins is on a list of most disappointing 1st overall picks he belongs in Edmonton Average 2nd line center.

Who cares where he was drafted? We like him as is. Losing him would suck because we would lose C (and now winger depth) depth. He plays all forward roles and is above average at both ends.

Drouin does nothing for us. Zilch. Another PP specialist on a bottom feeder. We jettisoned those players ages ago.

The only reason I can foresee trading him is for cap space for an elite offensive Dman like Karlsson.

 

[ImNeverWrong]

23 vs 25 is a pretty big difference in terms of development.

Also, Drouin had a breakout year last year, and if werent for him being traded to a bottom 4 team and being put at center, theres a good chance he would have improved his numbers.

Quit being a homer. Tampa had drouin on their awesome first unit pp for the 2016 year to inflate his numbers...so they can trade their problem child to a GM that didn't know what he was doing. Drouin was -13, and only 27 of his 53 pts were at even strength. That's not a break out. That's called pumping and dumping.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

Quit being a homer. Tampa had drouin on the first unit pp for the 2016 year to inflate his numbers...so they can trade their problem child to a GM that didn't know what he was doing. Drouin was -13, and only 27 regular season of his 53 pts were at even strength. That's not a break out. That's called pumping and dumping.

lmao
I guess you didn't know that Drouin was one of their top powerplay players
Their pp ran through Drouin.
I guess it never crossed your mind that Drouin was used on first pp unit because he is actually good at it?

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

Nope. Failed again.

 

[Ivan13]

I don't agree that Drouin has more upside on wing.

RNH finished the season on wing with 8 goals and 17 points in those 16 games. He was already having a strong season at center with worse line mates before the switch.

And he only played with the best player in all of hockey who in the same time frame posted 28 points. His stats are inflated because he played with McDavid, and the sample size is absurdly small. I'm no fan of Drouin even going back to his draft year (to be fair I didn't like RNH in his either), but I feel he is worth more than Hopkins.

 

[Habs10025]

Who cares where he was drafted? We like him as is. Losing him would suck because we would lose C (and now winger depth) depth. He plays all forward roles and is above average at both ends.

Drouin does nothing for us. Zilch. Another PP specialist on a bottom feeder. We jettisoned those players ages ago.

The only reason I can foresee trading him is for cap space for an elite offensive Dman like Karlsson.

 

[Habs10025]

Who cares where he was drafted? We like him as is. Losing him would suck because we would lose C (and now winger depth) depth. He plays all forward roles and is above average at both ends.

Drouin does nothing for us. Zilch. Another PP specialist on a bottom feeder. We jettisoned those players ages ago.

The only reason I can foresee trading him is for cap space for an elite offensive Dman like Karlsson.

Montreal aren't trading for Nugent Hopkins he's an average 2nd line center .