Can you post the actual tweet of the rumor? I don't see anything there except the link to the yahoo article which is just general speculation.
RIP extraskater.com?
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Can you post the actual tweet of the rumor? I don't see anything there except the link to the yahoo article which is just general speculation.
KaseMeOutside
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NHL teams are now hiring guys who simply input data into websites now 
it was a great website, guess maybe i'll go make a copycat and get hired too
it was a great website, guess maybe i'll go make a copycat and get hired too
As someone who is a professional software dev specializing in web based interfaces for heavy data driven backends I would be all over it.
Too bad I don't have twitter to contact the guy ha....
TheOllieC
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I think behindthenet said something about making a kickstarter to improve the site but I don't know if he was serious or not.
Random Forest
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Lots of information is archived and still available via the waybackmachine, so we still have access to a lot of the good stuff if anybody is in dire need of their data.
Marc the Habs Fan
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BeardyCanuck03
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Completely agree. TSN being the go to source for advanced stats would be a great way to keep them in the consciousness of nhl fans.
DrJenniferHanson
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Massive blow. London fans perused ExtraSkater quite a bit. Only other site I'm aware of is McKeen's.
badtakemachine
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The timing of this and the new "terms of service" on NHL.com leads me to believe the anti-scraping story.
I would think that as well, although Friedman (who is very plugged in) doesn't seem to think so.
I don't really think Darrly at ES would be hired by an NHl team either though. He's mostly a coder. He doesn't really bring anything relevant to the analysis side. Compiles the data but doesn't interpret it.
ES getting bought out by something like TSN makes sense to me. Betters their site and keeps hockey relevant there.
It's a shame. I love ES. Not as detailed as BTN or stats.hockeyanalyis, but it has by far the best interface.
Warden of the North
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The Leafs are a hiring a new front off ice person in the near future per Mirtle. Maybe they acquired ES for Dubas to interpret? Dubas probably was a fan of it given the CHL connection too.
These?
I don't see anything there specific to extraskater.com. I don't use twitter, so maybe I'm missing something?
Freudian
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The only reason I could see someone hiring this guy is that a team really likes the interface, wants to deny other teams the ease of use of extraskater and think it's cheaper/faster to just hire the guy than hire another guy that can do the same thing.
Marc the Habs Fan
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This one too:
Harrison Mooney @HarrisonMooney · 24h
Not just one. Still more coming. RT @HappyCaraT: About a week ago @HarrisonMooney said that Twitter was going to lose another blogger.
Considering extraskater.com went offline sometime late Thursday/early Friday, it seemed clear he was talking about extraskater's creator to me.
Warden of the North
Ned Stark's head
Wyshynski and Marek had no idea what was happening. They talked about it yesterday on their podcast. Wysh said he messaged ES about it and recieved no response. If mooney knows, then they would too.
Micklebot
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The interface is fine for a casual fan looking things up, but for a business looking to quickly pull data, they'd likely pull reports directly from the backend database using sql over going to the site. The site limits your variables for the queries far too much to really be useful in serious analysis.
SmellOfVictory
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Seconded and thirded. I'd go to extraskater on a whim to get a little background on a player I'm not familiar with, whereas doing that on BTN feels like the kind of undertaking you have to pack a lunch for.
Deutschland Dangler
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Micklebot
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Scraping the sites stats creates a ton of traffic that they have to accommodate. Capgeek for example prohibits webcrawlers and screen scrappers in it's terms of use.
The most likely result is suspicious activity would result in banning the IP.
Deutschland Dangler
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Well yeah, but they can write what they want into those terms of service, that doesn't mean it's actually binding for anyone. They're not really publishing original content (well, stats sites anyway), they're just listing commonly known, publicly available facts.
And the general rule of thumb is, what is openly published on the internet can also be scraped. It's not exactly rocket science to do it in a way that makes it next to I impossible for the website owner to detect it and stop you from doing it.
No Fun Shogun
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For what it's worth, TSN Toronto radio just said that the Leafs may have hired the guy behind this site.
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hatterson
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As a Leafs fan I'm really excited about this analytics push, although I'm not a huge fan of a site like extraskater going away since they were a great source for information for every day fans.
Kudos to those guys but I really need a new version of Extra Skater. The other sites are ok but ES was really smooth.
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