Report: NHL suspended referee Tim Peel 1 game following Puck Daddy pic/interview

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He's scheduled to ref tonight's Blues/Lightning game. Sounds like someone screwed up adm reported the wrong thing.

He was taken off a scheduled game on Friday, but he worked a game Saturday and he's working tonight.
 

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It's got to be their way to punish him for being a bad ref. They'll never acknowledge that a ref sucks (maybe they'll let him slowly fade out or retire like they did for Auger) but they can't ever say the ref isn't good because it removes all of their credibility.

This way they get rid of him for some bogus "offical rule" and they can save face.
 

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Not only that, but Kerry Fraser has stated numerous times in his TSN columns that refs usually have a beer in the locker room right after the game.

Peel was suspended for disclosing the internal processes of the league to the public. It's no different from if a Coke employee talked to a blogger about the Coke recipe, or if an airline employee gave us the minutiae of how their website's algorithm comes up with your airfare. It's not their place to do that.

its VERY different. Having the coke recipe lets you copy it, having the pricing algorithm lets you take advatange of it.

I've known for a long time that refs are charged with managing games, that not every call is made objectively independent of context. I gained this knowledge by watching more than a dozen games.

What he's done is essentially equivalent to saying " you see that magician up there, he really didn't saw that lady in half" when NO one actually thought that he did. Confirming the obvious, what the overwhelming majority of people already know isn't divulging trade secrets.
 

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Wysh is disputing the report Peel was suspended now. Weird.

Greg Wyshynski ‏@wyshynski
So, as I said last night, @985Sports blew the story. Good to know Ron Fournier reports news about as well as he ref'd NHL games.

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@wyshynski @985Sports so, what is the story? he was suspended for a game, or not even suspended at all?

Greg Wyshynski ‏@wyshynski
@EricEngels It's semantics. He was taken off an assignment on Friday, and while it's too much to ask @985Sports to report it, back on Sat.
 

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so its okay if the nhl cracks down on certain types of calls, but its not okay for the nhl to admit that it cracks down on certain types of calls ?

"The NHL" did not say anything; Tim Peel said something. Tim Peel has no right to go to the media and speak on behalf of the league.
 

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Not only that, but Kerry Fraser has stated numerous times in his TSN columns that refs usually have a beer in the locker room right after the game.

Peel was suspended for disclosing the internal processes of the league to the public. It's no different from if a Coke employee talked to a blogger about the Coke recipe, or if an airline employee gave us the minutiae of how their website's algorithm comes up with your airfare. It's not their place to do that.

That's it. Peel, probably broke some sort of non-disclosure agreement. NHL is a product, with legally protected secrets.
 

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So they make this public but not discipline for awful officiating?

1) I have yet to see any official league statement about this, meaning that the league didn't "make this public".

2) How much do we know about your disciplinary record at work? Oh right, that's none of our business, and we don't have a God-given right to that information.
 

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Not only that, but Kerry Fraser has stated numerous times in his TSN columns that refs usually have a beer in the locker room right after the game.

Peel was suspended for disclosing the internal processes of the league to the public. It's no different from if a Coke employee talked to a blogger about the Coke recipe, or if an airline employee gave us the minutiae of how their website's algorithm comes up with your airfare. It's not their place to do that.

Nothing like the Coke employee telling the coke secrets because those are secrets. When there are mandates that come from the league like call diving more closely and all that, it always gets out because the commentators are always talking about the latest thing the league is trying to clamp down on.
 

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http://www.sportingnews.com/nhl/sto...k-daddy-interview-nhl-official-greg-wyshynski

Peel admits it was a call he wouldn’t have made in a 1-1 game, and wouldn’t have made without knowing that the NHL wants this penalty for the sake of "game management," in order to ensure a 4-0 game between two rivals doesn’t get out of hand. Peel said he went over to Barry Trotz after the call, explained it, and the coach, having seen this episode before, said he understood.

Interesting...
 

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Nothing like the Coke employee telling the coke secrets because those are secrets. When there are mandates that come from the league like call diving more closely and all that, it always gets out because the commentators are always talking about the latest thing the league is trying to clamp down on.

1) Commentators are not league employees. Tim Peel is.

2) Your example of a crackdown on diving is very different from what Peel said about "game management".

3) Commentators are referring either to publicly-available information, or going off what "league sources" if it isn't public. Why do you think these sources are never named?

4) Commentators don't know what they're talking about just because they're on teevee.
 

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Funny that after all the articles Wysh has written basically trying to get Peel out of the league, all he had to do was talk to him and publish his answers about the inner workings of reffing.
 

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The past 5 years it's gotten to the point they can barely make the easy calls let alone successfully manage and not influence a game.

In the past five years it's gotten to the point that we can see just about every game, and have someone on the internet fill us in about the missed calls in games we didn't watch, plus the fact that we as a society have grown impatient with anything we deem to be a 'mistake'.

Refs are exactly the same now as they were five years ago.
 

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Yeah, seriously. Peel is TOO nice of a guy if he was naïve enough to think that would turn out well.

Wyshinski makes a living out of dragging guys like Peel through the mud... Peel offers a hang-out session to plead for a little mercy and naïvely offers him inside info ... Wyshinski takes the opportunity to publish a condescending account of that night, rip on him some more, take a bunch of credit for outing Peel as a bad ref (get over yourself already), and drive traffic to his blog with the ensuing controversy... and Peel ends up suspended. Awesome.

[mod] The story was a very generous account of the interview, and if anything only improved Peel's image.
 
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Does game management turn into series management in the playoffs?

At what point are they managing in order to generate the most revenue?
 

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As far as I know NHL hasn't officially addressed this, for those saying "bit omg they won't suspend for bad officiating?!"

To me this is pretty eye opening as far as him addressing the games not being officiated fairly. We all knew it but to come straight from a ref is pretty sad to hear from a fans perspective, but hey I'm a Hawks fan and according to HF this may help us anyway right,right?!

Also puck daddy is a ****** either way, I'd be willing to bet Peel said some of this off the record. Who knows.
 

Buck Aki Berg

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Does game management turn into series management in the playoffs?

Game management goes as far as making sure teams don't kill each other. So yes, a fight-filled game 3 will be followed by a tightly officiated game 4.

At what point are they managing in order to generate the most revenue?

You mean rigging games so that high-viewership teams get farther? Not happening.
 

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Game management goes as far as making sure teams don't kill each other. So yes, a fight-filled game 3 will be followed by a tightly officiated game 4.



You mean rigging games so that high-viewership teams get farther? Not happening.

Why do you say that?

Longer series generate more revenue, is it really rigging the game to have the NHL call the refs and say the team that won the 2 first games of a series is throwing picks(or whatever borderline penalty) and they should call it?
 

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