Reinhart: keep him up or send him down?

[Sabretooth]

Out of camp and after the first couple games, I was solidly in the "send him back" camp.

But, he's been improving every game. Despite the poor team effort, yesterday against the leafs was clearly his best game. Even Nolan realized this - I noticed he was sending Reinhart out for half-shifts with Hodgson and Stafford, and even for some PP time late in the game. Although, it could be more that he was punishing the vets than rewarding Reinhart (and Risto), but I think Reinhart played well enough yesterday to earn the in-game promotion. I even don't have a problem with the Reinhart-McCormick-Des line. Last couple games they've really been clicking and making things happen. I think there's some chemistry there, and its not like any of our other wingers have proven to be more productive so far this year.

I no longer feel like it would be that big of a deal if he did stay up, but I'd also like to see Larson, Grigs, and Schaller get some NHL games this year too.

 

[Zman5778]

He'll be a better player 1 year from now after spending the season in the NHL. Even if he has to sit some games and take it all in. NHL games, practices, strength and conditioning will really start to show. This isn't Grigorenko at 18, he's much more mature.

I don't think it will hurt him to go back, but he'll be further ahead by staying.

This is where I ultimately land. I don't think he'll be hurt to go back, but i do think he'll show the greater improvement if he stays up with the big club.

Last night's debacle notwithstanding, I've seen almost game-by-game improvement with him. I can tell he's adjusting to the speed of the game. His passes seem to get slicker and slicker. He's already one of our better defensive forwards (why Nolan is using Ennis/Moulson over him on the PK is beyond words).

I think he'll be better served by staying, even if he's playing 10 min/night on the 4th line for the first half/three-quarters of the year. And I don't think he's going to be "ruined mentally" by being among the losing.....it might even motivate him further.

 

[Chainshot]

I'm 55-45 to send him back.

 

[Bones Malone]

Send him down. I'd rather he keep his confidence in himself up in Kootenay, he's not "too good" to be there. If this was half of a functional team I might say keep him up, but there is really nothing here for him.

 

[Chainshot]

Send him down. I'd rather he keep his confidence in himself up in Kootenay, he's not "too good" to be there. If this was half of a functional team I might say keep him up, but there is really nothing here for him.

From what I've managed to cobble together in limited viewing, he's actually part of the "functional" part of the squad.

 

[Jame]

I'm 55-45 to send him back.

same but flipped

55-45 keep him here

 

[Jame]

This is where I ultimately land. I don't think he'll be hurt to go back, but i do think he'll show the greater improvement if he stays up with the big club.

Last night's debacle notwithstanding, I've seen almost game-by-game improvement with him. I can tell he's adjusting to the speed of the game. His passes seem to get slicker and slicker. He's already one of our better defensive forwards (why Nolan is using Ennis/Moulson over him on the PK is beyond words).

I think he'll be better served by staying, even if he's playing 10 min/night on the 4th line for the first half/three-quarters of the year. And I don't think he's going to be "ruined mentally" by being among the losing.....it might even motivate him further.

agreed completely. it's already clear that he is significantly more talented than anyone else on the team (forwards)

And in some sense, I think he'll make it plainly obvious by the end of the season that he's the best center on the team, and that will help going in to next year from a lineup/roster construction standpoint

 

[Jame]

He'll be a better player 1 year from now after spending the season in the NHL. Even if he has to sit some games and take it all in. NHL games, practices, strength and conditioning will really start to show. This isn't Grigorenko at 18, he's much more mature.

I don't think it will hurt him to go back, but he'll be further ahead by staying.

as simple as it gets

 

[CrazyPsycho]

Send him down, bring up Schaller

 

[haseoke39]

And in some sense, I think he'll make it plainly obvious by the end of the season that he's the best center on the team, and that will help going in to next year from a lineup/roster construction standpoint

I'd like to believe that, but I'm not sure he'll get the chance.

The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced all of the developmental things I want to see happen with this team this year are most dependent on having a development-minded coach.

 

[Myllz]

If he's going to be getting 6 minutes a night on the fourth line, send him down. Either put him with some better linemates and give him more powerplay time or send him back down.

 

[sba]

If he's going to be getting 6 minutes a night on the fourth line, send him down. Either put him with some better linemates and give him more powerplay time or send him back down.

well they put him with Hodgson today!

 

[Jame]

I'd like to believe that, but I'm not sure he'll get the chance.

The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced all of the developmental things I want to see happen with this team this year are most dependent on having a development-minded coach.

i dont think he's going to need the top 6 minutes/linemates to make it obvious... i mean, it's already becoming clear.

 

[Myllz]

well they put him with Hodgson today!

Oh god, send him down now.

 

[Girgensons28]

Tired of seeing him be thrown around like a ragdoll. He's not physically ready.

 

[JLewyB]

Tired of seeing him be thrown around like a ragdoll. He's not physically ready.

I'm tired of seeing him adjust his helmet every time he takes a hit. Put that thing on tight.

 

[Bones Malone]

From what I've managed to cobble together in limited viewing, he's actually part of the "functional" part of the squad.

I don't disagree, I would just rather see him be phenomenal than functional. Even if it is at a lower level. He is barely stating his professional career there's no need to rush him onto a historically bad team. I guess I'm just being conservative and thinking that he has more to lose by being here this year than he has to gain and there's little reason to take those odds this year.

 

[Deevo]

I don't disagree, I would just rather see him be phenomenal than functional. Even if it is at a lower level. He is barely stating his professional career there's no need to rush him onto a historically bad team. I guess I'm just being conservative and thinking that he has more to lose by being here this year than he has to gain and there's little reason to take those odds this year.

Very few players are phenomenal in their rookie year in the NHL.

 

[Sabretooth]

I'm tired of seeing him adjust his helmet every time he takes a hit. Put that thing on tight.

HA! I thought I was the only one

 

[Jacob582]

HA! I thought I was the only one

And I thought I was the only one.

I think he adjusts it every time he has contact with another player, not just when he is hit.

 

[Man of Principles]

Kootenay. Maturity wise I'm wowed. Physically, not enamored whatsoever. Some people just grow at different rates and he's a baby. He definitely knows what's needed to be here next year: big minutes and dedication in the weight room.

 

[enthusiast]

No need to burn an ELC year on this garbage, especially once the NHL pace catches up to him later on in the year

 

[Bones Malone]

Very few players are phenomenal in their rookie year in the NHL.

You're right, read the rest of my response and you will see I never said I expected him to be. I would just rather be conservative with him than take the Grigo approach. Especially given the current state of the team. I would rather see him here developing when the team has more skill and the ability to support him.

 

[La Cosa Nostra]

Keep him up but how about we give him a chance to succeed? Give him more PP time and better linemates then McCormick and Torrey Mitchell.

 

[C Note]

He'll be better if he stays. But it burns a year of his ELC. That's the only dilemma I see. I voted stay.