Speculation: Red Wings assets to move up in the draft.

[Redder Winger]

I see it as pointless to talk about trading down or up unless you have a specific player in mind that you have to get. And you never know that until draft day.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Honestly, this pick value chart is abysmal. Just going back to pick swaps over the last 5 drafts: (1st round)

2013 - Detroit moves 18 (379) to San Jose for 20 (350) and 58. (176) 147 point difference

Per this reference San Jose should've ended up with pick 11 or 12.

2014 - San Jose moves 20 (350) and 179 (68) to Chicago for 27 (291) and 62. (176) 49 point difference

Chicago should've ended up with pick 13 or 14.

2014 - Tampa moves 28 (283) to the Islanders for 35 (222) and 57. (178) 117 point difference

Islanders should've ended up with pick 16 or 17.

2015 - Toronto moves 24 (308) to the Flyers for 29 (275) and 61. (175) 142 point difference

Flyers should've ended up with pick 14 or 15.

2015 - Toronto flips 29 (275) to Columbus for 34 (228) and 68. (176) 129 point difference

Columbus should've ended up with pick 16 or 17.

2016 - New Jersey moves 11 (535) to Ottawa for 12 (507) and 80. (155) 127 point difference

Ottawa should've ended up with pick 7 or 8.

2016 - Philly moves 18 (379) and 79 (156) to Winnipeg for 22 (324) and 36. (217) 6 point difference

This is the anomaly that actually makes sense.

2016 - Washington moves 26 (297) to St. Louis for 28 (283) and 87. (140) 126 point difference

St. Louis should've ended up with pick 15 or 16.

2017 - Chicago moves 26 (297) to Dallas for 29 (275) and 70. (173) 151 point difference

Dallas should've ended up with pick 14 or 15.

Values are wayyyyy off.

 

[tony d]

39 +Vegas 1st to move up into the early 20's makes sense to me.

 

[Hen Kolland]

Honestly, this pick value chart is abysmal. Just going back to pick swaps over the last 5 drafts: (1st round)

2013 - Detroit moves 18 (379) to San Jose for 20 (350) and 58. (176) 147 point difference

Per this reference San Jose should've ended up with pick 11 or 12.

2014 - San Jose moves 20 (350) and 179 (68) to Chicago for 27 (291) and 62. (176) 49 point difference

Chicago should've ended up with pick 13 or 14.

2014 - Tampa moves 28 (283) to the Islanders for 35 (222) and 57. (178) 117 point difference

Islanders should've ended up with pick 16 or 17.

2015 - Toronto moves 24 (308) to the Flyers for 29 (275) and 61. (175) 142 point difference

Flyers should've ended up with pick 14 or 15.

2015 - Toronto flips 29 (275) to Columbus for 34 (228) and 68. (176) 129 point difference

Columbus should've ended up with pick 16 or 17.

2016 - New Jersey moves 11 (535) to Ottawa for 12 (507) and 80. (155) 127 point difference

Ottawa should've ended up with pick 7 or 8.

2016 - Philly moves 18 (379) and 79 (156) to Winnipeg for 22 (324) and 36. (217) 6 point difference

This is the anomaly that actually makes sense.

2016 - Washington moves 26 (297) to St. Louis for 28 (283) and 87. (140) 126 point difference

St. Louis should've ended up with pick 15 or 16.

2017 - Chicago moves 26 (297) to Dallas for 29 (275) and 70. (173) 151 point difference

Dallas should've ended up with pick 14 or 15.

Values are wayyyyy off.

Safe to say the league has changed quite substantially from 2011 when this chart was developed using data from probably 2000-2010 or so. Not to say that draft picks weren't always valuable, but knowing what we know now, with the advancement of statistical analysis and being able to quantify the value of young, cost-controlled assets as being a focal point of roster structure, not just a lucky occurrence from time to time, draft pick values are at an all time high.

If we look at the same chart concept applied from 2007-2017, I'm sure the values would be more accurate. But we also need to remember this is also looking at things in a vacuum; there are so many outside influences that can impact a trade like this. I would say virtually every trade is happening on draft day, and the team moving up has a specific player in mind that they didn't expect to be available and have them ranked highly on their big board. At a certain point, the premium price to move up becomes more digestible when THE guy is still in play for a team. So yeah, the face value of this chart is the best estimate of an absolute value that we have, but it certainly isn't the realized value that we see in action.

 

[Wingsfan 4 life]

I see it as pointless to talk about trading down or up unless you have a specific player in mind that you have to get. And you never know that until draft day.

What I find pointless about this is we still have the last 2 weeks of the season, draft lottery and playoffs before we know where anybody is picking.

 

[FireBird71]

Keep all picks....trade for more...use them all