Salary Cap: Red Wings 2014-15 season (Cap estimates)

[Henkka]

Okay, here are my estimations for the next season.

I have made these moves:

Out from Detroit:
- Bought out RW Jordin Tootoo with a compliance buyout, no caphit.
- Let walk UFA D Kyle Quincey and his 3.775M caphit.
- Let walk UFA RW Mikael Samuelsson and his 3.0M caphit.
- Let walk UFA W Todd Bertuzzi and his 1.875M caphit.
- Let walk UFA W Dan Cleary and his 1.75M caphit.
- Let walk UFA G Jonas Gustavsson and his 1.5M caphit.
- Let walk UFA RW Patrick Eaves and his 1.2M caphit.
- Let walk RFA C Cory Emmerton and his 533k caphit.
Also released rights for prospects F Willie Coetzee, F Andrej Nestrasil and D Gleason Fournier. Kept the rights for D Max Nicastro and W Trevor Parkes.

To stay at Detroit:
- Re-sign RW Daniel Alfredsson, with same style of 3.5M + 2.0M bonus deal. This gives us some extra flexibility with the cap.
- Re-sign D Danny DeKeyser, for 18 million, 6-year deal (3.0M caphit)
- Re-sign W Tomas Tatar for 6 million, 3-year deal (2.0M caphit)

New faces on Red Wings 23-man roster:
- Promote C Riley Sheahan from Grand Rapids, re-signed to 2-year deal with 900k caphit.
- Promote D Adam Almquist from Grand Rapids, re-signed to 3-year deal with 700k caphit
- Promote RW Landon Ferraro from Grand Rapids, re-signed to 3-year deal with 700k caphit.
- Promote RW Mitchell Callahan from Grand Rapids, re-signed to 3-year deal with 600k caphit.
- promote G Petr Mrazek from Grand Rapids.


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FORWARDS
Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($7.500m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m)
Gustav Nyquist ($0.950m) / Stephen Weiss ($4.900m) / Daniel Alfredsson ($5.500m)
Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Tomas Tatar ($2.000m)
Drew Miller ($1.350m) / Riley Sheahan ($0.900m) / Landon Ferraro ($0.700m)
Joakim Andersson ($0.733m) / Mitchell Callahan ($0.600m)

DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($4.250m)
Danny DeKeyser ($3.000m) / Brendan Smith ($1.263m)
Brian Lashoff ($0.725m) / Jakub Kindl ($2.400m)
Adam Almquist ($0.700m)

GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($5.292m)
Petr Mrazek ($0.595m)

BUYOUTS
Jordin Tootoo ($0.000m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)

SALARY CAP: $71,100,000; CAP PAYROLL: $62,069,545; BONUSES: $195,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $9,030,455

First AHL-callups on injury cases would be Tomas Jurco, Luke Glendening, Calle Järnkrok, Teemu Pulkkinen, Xavier Ouellet, Ryan Sproul, Alexey Marchenko and so on.


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So promoting all kids who'll lose their waiver eligibility (Sheahan, Ferraro, Callahan, Almquist) and letting the dead weight walk, we will have a full 23-man roster already for next season.

And after that, there would be 9 million of cap space. Or 7 million, depends how do you want to think of it, because that Alfie bonus will slide to 2014-15 cap from this current season. But if we extend Alfie with same style of deal, we can create that that 2.0M room back to 9 million.

So there would be space to made a MEGA-UFA SPLASH on Free Agency, or just let that cap space grow towards the 2014-15 trade deadline, where we could eat almost 30 million of contract values. That's nothing but very very interesting situation. Either way, we could bolster the team at summer, or be a big buyer at the deadline again. Or maybe both.

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[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Okay, here are my estimations for the next season.

I have made these moves:

Out from Detroit:
- Bought out RW Jordin Tootoo with a compliance buyout, no caphit.
- Let walk UFA D Kyle Quincey and his 3.775M caphit.
- Let walk UFA RW Mikael Samuelsson and his 3.0M caphit.
- Let walk UFA W Todd Bertuzzi and his 1.875M caphit.
- Let walk UFA W Dan Cleary and his 1.75M caphit.
- Let walk UFA G Jonas Gustavsson and his 1.5M caphit.
- Let walk UFA RW Patrick Eaves and his 1.2M caphit.
- Let walk RFA C Cory Emmerton and his 533k caphit.
Also released rights for prospects F Willie Coetzee, F Andrej Nestrasil and D Gleason Fournier. Kept the rights for D Max Nicastro and W Trevor Parkes.

To stay at Detroit:
- Re-sign RW Daniel Alfredsson, with same style of 3.5M + 2.0M bonus deal. This gives us some extra flexibility with the cap.
- Re-sign D Danny DeKeyser, for 18 million, 6-year deal (3.0M caphit)
- Re-sign W Tomas Tatar for 6 million, 3-year deal (2.0M caphit)

New faces on Red Wings 23-man roster:
- Promote C Riley Sheahan from Grand Rapids, re-signed to 2-year deal with 900k caphit.
- Promote D Adam Almquist from Grand Rapids, re-signed to 3-year deal with 700k caphit
- Promote RW Landon Ferraro from Grand Rapids, re-signed to 3-year deal with 700k caphit.
- Promote RW Mitchell Callahan from Grand Rapids, re-signed to 3-year deal with 600k caphit.
- promote G Petr Mrazek from Grand Rapids.


CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster

FORWARDS
Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($7.500m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m)
Gustav Nyquist ($0.950m) / Stephen Weiss ($4.900m) / Daniel Alfredsson ($5.500m)
Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Tomas Tatar ($2.000m)
Drew Miller ($1.350m) / Riley Sheahan ($0.900m) / Landon Ferraro ($0.700m)
Joakim Andersson ($0.733m) / Mitchell Callahan ($0.600m)

DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($4.250m)
Danny DeKeyser ($3.000m) / Brendan Smith ($1.263m)
Brian Lashoff ($0.725m) / Jakub Kindl ($2.400m)
Adam Almquist ($0.700m)

GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($5.292m)
Petr Mrazek ($0.595m)

BUYOUTS
Jordin Tootoo ($0.000m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)

SALARY CAP: $71,100,000; CAP PAYROLL: $62,069,545; BONUSES: $195,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $9,030,455

So promoting all kids who'll lose their waiver eligibility (Sheahan, Ferraro, Callahan, Almquist) and letting the dead weight walk, we will have a full 23-man roster already for next season.

And after that, there would be 9 million of cap space. Or 7 million, how do you want to think it, if that Alfie bonus will slide to 2014-15 from this current season. But if we extend Alfie with same style of deal, we can take that that 2.0M room back to 9 million.

So there would be space to made a MEGA-UFA SPLASH on Free Agency, or just let that cap space grow towards the 2014-15 trade deadline, where we could eat almost 30 million of cotract values. Insane. Either way, we could bolster the team at summer, or be a big buyer at the deadline again. Or maybe both.

Love it, You pretty much have the same idea as me. I was pretty much thinking this exact same lineup.

 

[probertrules24]

That's pretty much exactly what I think will happen. Only thing I have no real idea on is the Dekeyser contract. I would love to lock him up for 6 years though.

I could also see them trying to sign another vet and trying to pass Callahan or Ferraro through waivers. Would it also make more sense to sign a stop gap to be Jimmy's backup and let Mrazek have another year in GR with Paterson as the backup.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

Okay, here are my estimations for the next season.

I have made these moves:

Out from Detroit:
- Bought out RW Jordin Tootoo with a compliance buyout, no caphit.
- Let walk UFA D Kyle Quincey and his 3.775M caphit.
- Let walk UFA RW Mikael Samuelsson and his 3.0M caphit.
- Let walk UFA W Todd Bertuzzi and his 1.875M caphit.
- Let walk UFA W Dan Cleary and his 1.75M caphit.
- Let walk UFA G Jonas Gustavsson and his 1.5M caphit.
- Let walk UFA RW Patrick Eaves and his 1.2M caphit.
- Let walk RFA C Cory Emmerton and his 533k caphit.
Also released rights for prospects F Willie Coetzee, F Andrej Nestrasil and D Gleason Fournier. Kept the rights for D Max Nicastro and W Trevor Parkes.

To stay at Detroit:
- Re-sign RW Daniel Alfredsson, with same style of 3.5M + 2.0M bonus deal. This gives us some extra flexibility with the cap.
- Re-sign D Danny DeKeyser, for 18 million, 6-year deal (3.0M caphit)
- Re-sign W Tomas Tatar for 6 million, 3-year deal (2.0M caphit)

New faces on Red Wings 23-man roster:
- Promote C Riley Sheahan from Grand Rapids, re-signed to 2-year deal with 900k caphit.
- Promote D Adam Almquist from Grand Rapids, re-signed to 3-year deal with 700k caphit
- Promote RW Landon Ferraro from Grand Rapids, re-signed to 3-year deal with 700k caphit.
- Promote RW Mitchell Callahan from Grand Rapids, re-signed to 3-year deal with 600k caphit.
- promote G Petr Mrazek from Grand Rapids.


CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster

FORWARDS
Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($7.500m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m)
Gustav Nyquist ($0.950m) / Stephen Weiss ($4.900m) / Daniel Alfredsson ($5.500m)
Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Tomas Tatar ($2.000m)
Drew Miller ($1.350m) / Riley Sheahan ($0.900m) / Landon Ferraro ($0.700m)
Joakim Andersson ($0.733m) / Mitchell Callahan ($0.600m)

DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($4.250m)
Danny DeKeyser ($3.000m) / Brendan Smith ($1.263m)
Brian Lashoff ($0.725m) / Jakub Kindl ($2.400m)
Adam Almquist ($0.700m)

GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($5.292m)
Petr Mrazek ($0.595m)

BUYOUTS
Jordin Tootoo ($0.000m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)

SALARY CAP: $71,100,000; CAP PAYROLL: $62,069,545; BONUSES: $195,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $9,030,455

So promoting all kids who'll lose their waiver eligibility (Sheahan, Ferraro, Callahan, Almquist) and letting the dead weight walk, we will have a full 23-man roster already for next season.

And after that, there would be 9 million of cap space. Or 7 million, depends how do you want to think of it, because that Alfie bonus will slide to 2014-15 cap from this current season. But if we extend Alfie with same style of deal, we can create that that 2.0M room back to 9 million.

So there would be space to made a MEGA-UFA SPLASH on Free Agency, or just let that cap space grow towards the 2014-15 trade deadline, where we could eat almost 30 million of cotract values. Insane. Either way, we could bolster the team at summer, or be a big buyer at the deadline again. Or maybe both.

the biggest pay outs this ummer will be to
-Vanek 7 years at 8 million(or 8 years at 7.5 or so in the Isles)
-Gabby 5 years at 6.75 million
-Statsny 7 years at 6.5 million(or 8 years at 6 million or so in Col)
-Callahan 6 years at 6 million
-Girardi 5 years at 5.5 million
-Moulson 5 years at 5.5 million
-Boyle 3 years at 6 million(maybe a little less in SJ)

I dont see any of these guys getting that kind of money here in detroit but getting it somewhere else

If we spend any of that 9 million it will be because we made a trade for a top 3 dman, otherwise I expect to see us well below the cap ceiling next season

 

[Frk It]

Please let that be the forward group next year.

And please let us let all those guys walk this summer.

I would prefer our 3rd pair on D to be veteran UFA + Ouellet over Lashoff and Kindl, but other than that I hope everything you said in your post happens.

 

[Henkka]

That's pretty much exactly what I think will happen. Only thing I have no real idea on is the Dekeyser contract. I would love to lock him up for 6 years though.

Yeah, we can discuss about his value and hope for a long contract, but those final numbers won't be any kind of factor on our bigger plan. There will lots of room to operate.

 

[Mount Suribachi]

Now way Dekeyser signs a 6 year deal for $3M per year. Maybe 3 years, but no more.

Tatar will probably get more than $2M as well. We have a crap load of cap-space and both their agents will know it.

But either way, we will still have a ton of cap space, using it is going to be the hard part. Very little available in FA, but there may be some good players available via trade or cap dumps.

 

[ArGarBarGar]

That's pretty much exactly what I think will happen. Only thing I have no real idea on is the Dekeyser contract. I would love to lock him up for 6 years though.

I don't think either party will want to lock themselves up for a contract that long when DD will have only played a season and a half.

 

[Henkka]

I don't think either party will want to lock themselves up for a contract that long when DD will have only played a season and a half.

Maybe a Roman Josi -type of deal? 6 years, 4.0 million per.

But 3 million per for 4 years would work also with DD.

I would be ready to gamble with him with a very long contract, like we did with Kronwall and Filppula on earlier days. Those were 5-year deals with 3.0M caphit after the ELC.

 

[probertrules24]

Yeah, we can discuss about his value and hope for a long contract, but those final numbers won't be any kind of factor on our bigger plan. There will lots of room to operate.

7 years 3.5 it is then. sign the contracts Kenny and Danny.

 

[InjuredChoker]

F group looks good if weiss is top6er.

D would need help imo but UFA next offseason doesn't seem to offer that.

ideally, another kronwall. not maybe realistic.

 

[Frk It]

I would be ready to gamble with him with a very long contract, like we did with Kronwall and Filppula on earlier days. Those were 5-year deals with 3.0M caphit after the ELC.

Me too. I hope the wings are thinking the same thing.

 

[ArGarBarGar]

Maybe a Roman Josi -type of deal? 6 years, 4.0 million per.

But 3 million per for 4 years would work also with DD.

I would be ready to gamble with him with a very long contract, like we did with Kronwall and Filppula on earlier days. Those were 5-year deals with 3.0M caphit after the ELC.

The difference is those two were drafted and part of the system for a few years before given those deals.

Dekeyser hasn't even been in the system for one.

 

[InjuredChoker]

Maybe a Roman Josi -type of deal? 6 years, 4.0 million per.

But 3 million per for 4 years would work also with DD.

I would be ready to gamble with him with a very long contract, like we did with Kronwall and Filppula on earlier days. Those were 5-year deals with 3.0M caphit after the ELC.

hamonic did deal like that too.

i'd do 6 years at 4. would prefer to keep it lower but i'd probably sign that.

 

[Henkka]

F group looks good if weiss is top6er.

D would need help imo but UFA next offseason doesn't seem to offer that.

ideally, another kronwall. not maybe realistic.

Yeah, there would be that Kindl-trade to be made for a defensive defenceman to fix that defence balance of guys to a better mix.

Maybe that would eat ~1.0-1.5 million of capspace to get a "bradstuart" -style of player in the price region of 3.5-4.0M and getting rid of Kindl's 2.4M caphit.

 

[Frk It]

Yeah, there would be that Kindl-trade to be made for a defensive defenceman to fix that defence balance of guys to a better mix.

Maybe that would eat ~1.0-1.5 million of capspace to get a "bradstuart" -style of player in the price region of 3.5-4.0M and getting rid of Kindl's 2.4M caphit.

I think it'd be smarter to trade Kindl for pick and/or prospect then just sign a veteran UFA D as a stop-gap until our wave of D prospects come.

 

[Perd Hapley]

I like it but I wouldn't mind trading Kindl in the offseason for a more experienced defender who can play the pk. That way we can bump Lashoff out and move Almquist in to help the second powerplay out. Maybe someone like Mark Stuart or Derek Morris who is a UFA this summer would be better to have than Kindl, who may need a move to get back to what he was last year. That way we have:

Kronwall-Ericsson
DD-Smith
Almquist-vet stay home d
Lashoff

 

[RedWingzz]

I agree for the most part. I still would like Holland to find a top 4 defenceman via free agency. I know there aren't many names out there, but there still are a couple who could help the team out.

Also, I'm not really sold on Ferraro. I know the Wings management don't like to lose players for nothing, and he will probably get a shot at the NHL level, but I would either sign another forward to play 3rd/4th line, or promote Jurco. Ferraro is just "meh" to me. I do like Callahan, and would give him a shot as the 14th forward, but it wouldn't be the end of the world either if we waive him and he gets claimed.

 

[InjuredChoker]

Yeah, there would be that Kindl-trade to be made for a defensive defenceman to fix that defence balance of guys to a better mix.

Maybe that would eat ~1.0-1.5 million of capspace to get a "bradstuart" -style of player in the price region of 3.5-4.0M and getting rid of Kindl's 2.4M caphit.

i'd go after that top 4 puck mover. pair him with dekeyser. smith and lashoff/almquist on third pair.

if can't get one, too expensive or whatever, i'd go with what you proposed.

 

[Henkka]

Those Right-handed Defencemen mentioned in here would be very interesting.

Boyle, Girardi, Morris...

 

[InjuredChoker]

Those Right-handed Defencemen mentioned in here would be very interesting.

Boyle, Girardi, Morris...

sadly, i think only morris can be expected to hit UFA.

i'd go after him in a 2 year deal.

 

[last_sd]

- Let walk UFA D Kyle Quincey and his 3.775M caphit.
- Let walk UFA RW Mikael Samuelsson and his 3.0M caphit.
- Let walk UFA W Todd Bertuzzi and his 1.875M caphit.
- Let walk UFA W Dan Cleary and his 1.75M caphit.
- Let walk UFA G Jonas Gustavsson and his 1.5M caphit.
- Let walk UFA RW Patrick Eaves and his 1.2M caphit.
- Let walk RFA C Cory Emmerton and his 533k caphit.

To stay at Detroit:
- Re-sign RW Daniel Alfredsson, with same style of 3.5M + 2.0M bonus deal. This gives us some extra flexibility with the cap.
- Re-sign D Danny DeKeyser, for 18 million, 6-year deal (3.0M caphit)
- Re-sign W Tomas Tatar for 6 million, 3-year deal (2.0M caphit)

As long as those let go happens I will be happy.
I think Dekeyser will sign a shorter deal.
If they want to sign for 6 years I think money will be closer to 4M.
Tatar might also get close to 3M. (just going on the safe side)
Which will leave us with 7M/5M (bonus).

FAs will get ton of money this summer with the cap bump to 70M.

 

[InjuredChoker]

i don't think tatar has the leverage to ask for 3 mil. unless he absolutely blows up offensively.

kadri got 3 mil, as did stepan and they have a lot better track records, though they were only 2 years.

 

[probertrules24]

Yeah, there would be that Kindl-trade to be made for a defensive defenceman to fix that defence balance of guys to a better mix.

Maybe that would eat ~1.0-1.5 million of capspace to get a "bradstuart" -style of player in the price region of 3.5-4.0M and getting rid of Kindl's 2.4M caphit.

I think it'd be smarter to trade Kindl for pick and/or prospect then just sign a veteran UFA D as a stop-gap until our wave of D prospects come.

I like it but I wouldn't mind trading Kindl in the offseason for a more experienced defender who can play the pk.

I would actually like to find a guy who is a defensive guy but keep Kindl around. Somebody who we can sign for 1-2 years.

 

[last_sd]

i don't think tatar has the leverage to ask for 3 mil. unless he absolutely blows up offensively.

kadri got 3 mil, as did stepan and they have a lot better track records, though they were only 2 years.

I know what you mean. I just want to play the safe side (on how much cap space we will have). If he signs for less, more cap space.