Line Combos: (Realistically) Do we have 2 number 2 Centres?

[ForSpareParts*]

I'm talking about Bozak and Kadri.

Wouldn't we be better off trading one (Kadri) in order to improve the 1C spot.

Not every player gets to play with his good friend his entire career.

Would we be better off:

JvR ____ Kessel
Lupul Bozak Clarkson
_____ Holland ______
Ashton McClement D'amigo

?

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[Kelly]

Trading Kadri would be our biggest mistake since trading Rask.

Trade Bozak, unsustainable shooting % this year, and can only produce when he plays with Kessel.

SELL HIGH.

 

[jmart21]

I'm talking about Bozak and Kadri.

Wouldn't we be better off trading one (Kadri) in order to improve the 1C spot.

Not every player gets to play with his good friend his entire career.

Would we be better off:

JvR ____ Kessel
Lupul Bozak Clarkson
_____ Holland ______
Ashton McClement D'amigo

?

I think Bozak would do much better than an empty roster spot there; if you think otherwise....that's just plain silly.

 

[Mitch44Leafs]

I would be very open to doing that if and only if a real 1C is brought in. I believe Holland can improve drastically over the next few years.

Return would have to be high to get rid of Kadri because I believe there is a lot of untapped potential with him

 

[Joey Hoser]

If somebody wants to give us their legit #1 C for Kadri, I'm all for it, but I'm not stupid enough to believe that's in any way a reasonable expectation.

I used to think people we're impatient and ignorant for wanting to trade Kadri. Now I realize that these people's problem is just that they don't understand how trading works, and how we can't just decide to trade for a #1 center. This isn't NHL14.

 

[Bardown warrior]

Trading Kadri would be our biggest mistake since trading Rask.

Trade Bozak, unsustainable shooting % this year, and can only produce when he plays with Kessel.

SELL HIGH.

Bozak hasnt really played with anybody but kessel, so its tough to tell... He also meshes well with Lupul... I guarantee if we keep kadri, he'll be the no.1 centre couple years down the road.

 

[Punch Drunk Loov]

I'd be happy to sell high on Bozak.

Kadri would be a mistake to trade

 

[Diatomic]

Yeah lets trade the 23 year old and keep the aging 29 year old that probably can't produce without 2 elite wingers. Bozak inbetween Lupul and Clarkson, playing 2nd PP time would be lucky to get 30 points.

 

[ForSpareParts*]

Yeah lets trade the 23 year old and keep the aging 29 year old that probably can't produce without 2 elite wingers. Bozak inbetween Lupul and Clarkson, playing 2nd PP time would be lucky to get 30 points.

Why do we care how many points Bozak gets on the 2nd line? What if they win with a 1C and Bozak at 2C? Do we only care about everyone's individual stats for the sake of bragging rights on hockey forums?

 

[Diatomic]

Why do we care how many points Bozak gets on the 2nd line? What if they win with a 1C and Bozak at 2C? Do we only care about everyone's individual stats for the sake of bragging rights on hockey forums?

Ok let me just find this magical #1C were going to get for Nazem Kadri

 

[Porn*]

bozak has proven this year and last that he's a legitimate top 6 C in the NHL at least in my opinion.

Kadri isn't a 1st liner so why rush to move the only guy who resembles one and has incredible chemistry with our top 2 players, i fail to see the logic.

 

[Joey Hoser]

Why do we care how many points Bozak gets on the 2nd line? What if they win with a 1C and Bozak at 2C? Do we only care about everyone's individual stats for the sake of bragging rights on hockey forums?

If you don't care how well our 2C does then why do you want to trade Kadri so badly?

 

[Warden of the North]

I would move either in a package for a higher impact C. Kadri is easier to move, im sure

 

[Punn]

Trading Kadri would be our biggest mistake since trading Rask.

Trade Bozak, unsustainable shooting % this year, and can only produce when he plays with Kessel.

SELL HIGH.

Tyler Bozak is the best two-way player on our team and you think we should trade him because he has an unsustainable shooting %. What a joke.

 

[Suntouchable13]

Tyler Bozak is the best two-way player on our team and you think we should trade him because he has an unsustainable shooting %. What a joke.

That right there is why we suck.

 

[Diatomic]

Tyler Bozak is the best two-way player on our team and you think we should trade him because he has an unsustainable shooting %. What a joke.

Tyler Bozak is mediocore defensively, highly overrated just like Jay Mcselke. Bozak is a top 5 player in regards to GA/60mins, in other words, when he's on the ice more goals are scored against than any other player in the leafs, and few players on the NHL (not a good thing!)

 

[Kelly]

Tyler Bozak is the best two-way player on our team and you think we should trade him because he has an unsustainable shooting %. What a joke.

No I don't. We should keep both Kadri and Bozak, unless we're bringing in somebody superior, than I'd rather move Bozak.

It was more of a imitation of all the posters who wants to "sell-high" on Kadri for the same reasons.

 

[Joey Hoser]

That right there is why we suck.

So the answer is to trade the best one we have for "?" and expect improvement?

 

[pucci2001]

I think Bozak would do much better than an empty roster spot there; if you think otherwise....that's just plain silly.

Keep both unless we can move one for a better player that plays Center or Defense and is still approaching their prime.

Sign Stastny, neither are true #1 centers, Stastny is better than both. Realistically I would LOVE Bozak as a third liner, Kadri needs to keep maturing into a solid 2nd.

 

[Punn]

Tyler Bozak is mediocore defensively, highly overrated just like Jay Mcselke. Bozak is a top 5 player in regards to GA/60mins, in other words, when he's on the ice more goals are scored against than any other player in the leafs, and few players on the NHL (not a good thing!)

Instead of reciting advance stats, how about you apply some actual knowledge to the point you just made there?

Tyler Bozak plays with the two of the most defensively liable players in the league. Kessel can't ever make a play in his zone and floats around. JVR cherry picks at the red line. Don't get me wrong Kessel and JVR are HIGHLY talented offense players, but are both jokes defensively.

And if you're going to play a rush style, you're bound to turn over the puck. Ask Drew Doughty how he feels about the Leaf's top line?

SO if him being overrated is based on "GA/60mins," you need to open your eyes buddy. Even Joe Pavelski couldn't save the two for USA - they were constantly being hemmed in the defensive zone.

 

[jmart21]

Keep both unless we can move one for a better player that plays Center or Defense and is still approaching their prime.

Sign Stastny, neither are true #1 centers, Stastny is better than both. Realistically I would LOVE Bozak as a third liner, Kadri needs to keep maturing into a solid 2nd.

This is exactly the way I see it.

Kadri is likely the odd one out because he'll be more attractive to other teams and would likely bring in the better return.

A 1-2 punch of Bozak-Statsny is much much better than Bozak-Kadri. We'd have 2 dependable 2-way centres that can play 20+ mins (no more forcing McClement to play way to many mins) and have an impact at both ends of the rink.

Couple this with the fact that Kadri could be moved for a young dman; we also improve the blueline by dealing him.

 

[Kelly]

Bozak hasnt really played with anybody but kessel, so its tough to tell... He also meshes well with Lupul... I guarantee if we keep kadri, he'll be the no.1 centre couple years down the road.

I can guarantee it.. You can't teach the skills and on-ice awareness Nazem has. The positioning, defensively responsible, and face-offs will come with maturity and experience... I wonder how good Tyler Bozak was defensively at Kadri's age...

 

[Diatomic]

Instead of reciting advance stats, how about you apply some actual knowledge to the point you just made there?

Tyler Bozak plays with the two of the most defensively liable players in the league. Kessel can't ever make a play in his zone and floats around. JVR cherry picks at the red line. Don't get me wrong Kessel and JVR are HIGHLY talented offense players, but are both jokes defensively.

And if you're going to play a rush style, you're bound to turn over the puck. Ask Drew Doughty how he feels about the Leaf's top line?

SO if him being overrated is based on "GA/60mins," you need to open your eyes buddy. Even Joe Pavelski couldn't save the two for USA - they were constantly being hemmed in the defensive zone.

So, "JVR and Kessel are Both jokes defensively" yet they have been on for less goals against than Bozak... Contradicing yourself. Bozak is, I'll say it again, overrated defensively. This guy backchecks with his stick on his hips like he's out of breathe. He's apart of the worst PK in the league. He's amongst the leaders in goals scored. Either your overrating Bozak or he's not good defensively.

 

[ForSpareParts*]

I can guarantee it.. You can't teach the skills and on-ice awareness Nazem has. The positioning, defensively responsible, and face-offs will come with maturity and experience... I wonder how good Tyler Bozak was defensively at Kadri's age...

No it won't. When it comes to D and being responsible you either have it or you don't.

 

[ForSpareParts*]

Yes. I expect improvement in all positions. I expect improvements from players like Kadri and Bozak. If Shanny can't get results from both players at both positions then they should be fired.

:Sarcasm: