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I'd happily resign him to a multi year deal, I can see him being a consistent 20-25 goal guy as long as he stays healthy.
Re-sign Latendresse
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If I recall correctly, the Habs offered the same contract to Lats as we did, but he chose us a he didn't want to deal with the scrutiny.
costermonger
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The guy is the same age as Nick Foligno. I feel fairly certain there's a deal for him to sign after the season if he stays healthy. For what he can bring, it's kind of a no brainier I think.
Vaclav Varada
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What I like most about Lats is he looks good on any line he's put on. He seems to have the ability to create seemingly instant chemistry with anyone he plays with.
ReginKarlssonLehner
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Sign him now.
With a full year under management and our staff in the off-season he will be even better.
With a full year under management and our staff in the off-season he will be even better.
Latendresse has been outplayed by our numerous AHL call-ups and will have even less of a spot on the team next year, plus he's a massive injury risk. I don't see why we should re-sign him.
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I don't know if the games are on 2 months tape delay in Lithuania (kidding), but he's played very well lately.
I've watched every Senators game. He's slow as all hell, incompetent defensively, he takes bad penalties without drawing penalties himself and is likely our worst possession player among regular forwards. His injury issues are well documented. He should not have a spot in our top 6 next year and he'd be useless in a bottom 6 role.
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He is a far better player than I gave him credit for early in the season. I would love to see him signed for 2 years in around the 2 mill range per season.
Yes, injuries are a huge consideration. But (and here come all of the ifs) if we have Spezza back, Michalek back, and Alfie does not retire that would put Lat on the third line where he probably belongs. He would be somewhat sheltered there, which I believe would lessen the amount of injuries he would have.
Yes, injuries are a huge consideration. But (and here come all of the ifs) if we have Spezza back, Michalek back, and Alfie does not retire that would put Lat on the third line where he probably belongs. He would be somewhat sheltered there, which I believe would lessen the amount of injuries he would have.
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While I admit your description of him was pretty accurate from his play before he took a few games off, after he's come back he's played pretty well.
He's not AS defensive minded as other guys, but we need another goal scorer, and he is one of those guys.
I'm fine giving him a chance to work with the Sens for the summer and then see what he's got. He's played well enough to do that. And he's young.
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Lats' lack of speed almost works to his advantage. He's usually the 3rd forward trailing and seems to get a lot of chances as the trailer. Like I've said before in this thread, he has insane hockey sense. He knows where to be on the ice and when we're in the zone cycling and creating havoc, he doesn't need to be the fastest player on the ice. His size allows him to plow to the net and create room for his linemates. He's a very very effective offensive zone player.
He's a similar career path I expect Stone to take. Hopefully minus the injuries.
He's a similar career path I expect Stone to take. Hopefully minus the injuries.
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Geez, people want to get rid of Greening yet want to keep Latendresse which makes no sense to me at all. Greening works hard all over the ice, Latendresse is a cherry picker. Greening hits all over the ice, he put Gionta out with a hard hit tonight & led the team in hits, Latendresse rarely hits. Greening has 13 pts Latendresse has 7 pts & only played 14 games this yr, he has injury issues. Greening is a work out machine, Latendresse came into the season out of shape. Greening is the fastest guy on the team & Latendressse could be the slowest forward on the team. Greening is also ten times better defensively. Most keep thinking Latendresse is going to break out but don't give Greening any credit for his play even when he does well. Makes no sense. 
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Geez, people want to get rid of Greening yet want to keep Latendresse which makes no sense to me at all. Greening works hard all over the ice, Latendresse is a cherry picker. Greening hits all over the ice, he put Gionta out with a hard hit tonight & led the team in hits, Latendresse rarely hits. Greening has 13 pts Latendresse has 7 pts & only played 14 games this yr, he has injury issues. Greening is a work out machine, Latendresse came into the season out of shape. Greening is the fastest guy on the team & Latendressse could be the slowest forward on the team. Greening is also ten times better defensively. Most keep thinking Latendresse is going to break out but don't give Greening any credit for his play even when he does well. Makes no sense.
One person makes a post about Greening in another thread and you go ape **** all over the forum bashing Latendresse?
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One person makes a post about Greening in another thread and you go ape **** all over the forum bashing Latendresse?
I don't like Latendresse but I like Greening.
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I guess he's a guy who will never be good enough for some people. He was brought in to provide offense, and when he does that, he's not good enough defensively. When he shows that he has great hockey sense and scoring instincts, he's a cherry picker.
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Geez, people want to get rid of Greening yet want to keep Latendresse which makes no sense to me at all. Greening works hard all over the ice, Latendresse is a cherry picker. Greening hits all over the ice, he put Gionta out with a hard hit tonight & led the team in hits, Latendresse rarely hits. Greening has 13 pts Latendresse has 7 pts & only played 14 games this yr, he has injury issues. Greening is a work out machine, Latendresse came into the season out of shape. Greening is the fastest guy on the team & Latendressse could be the slowest forward on the team. Greening is also ten times better defensively. Most keep thinking Latendresse is going to break out but don't give Greening any credit for his play even when he does well. Makes no sense.
i wouldn't mind a 2 year contract at around 2.5.
worst case he gets injured. so we have 2.5 against the cap, no biggie.
as for the greening and lats thing. why don't we keep both? but i see why people want to get rid of greening. he's pretty much hit his ceiling i think. he's going to be a 10 to 15 goal guy, who gives you some physicality. btw, lats hits too but i guess your hatred for the guy blinds you.
I'm really glad you cleared that up for me!
I can't see how they don't re-sign Lats. He's been everything they hoped for since coming back from injury.
I'm mixed on Lats. For the way he is playing overall right now, I wouldn't sign him for more than a year, if that. But, he was off for two years and had no training camp, which can excuse rust and getting up to speed. It does not excuse showing up and not being in the physical condition expected of a professional.
He has shown a good set of hands but his play away from the puck has problems. He cheats on plays quite a bit as well, both defensively and offensively. Not covering the defensive side of players or getting to far ahead of plays on breakouts. It just isn't the good solid 200 foot game the Sens want from players. Likely the cheating is from the lack of speed.
In addition to the speed, there is also a lack of quickness. Twice tonight he simply had to cover a point man and instead of the stride or two contain the player he ended up going down and swinging his stick to try and knock the puck away.
On the plus, he is young, has good hands, and there should be some good upside.
The main issue is his overall game and if he can learn and compensate enough for lack of speed to improve enough to stay in the NHL. I'm not a fan of "professionals" making $1 million plus in a year and not being in top shape - it's a lack of respect for the team that is paying you and a burden for the people you play with. He has mainly played with Alfie, which always showcases players to their best.
IMHO Lats is still a project, and I would like the see how it progresses before getting to locked in.
Comments in another thread are that he is what we hope Stone will develop into. I sure as heck have a lot more hopes for Stone than where Lats is right now. That would be a major disappointment.
And I do watch the games, and have half a half season ticket. Watching in person is much better to see how a player is doing away from the puck than the TV.
He has shown a good set of hands but his play away from the puck has problems. He cheats on plays quite a bit as well, both defensively and offensively. Not covering the defensive side of players or getting to far ahead of plays on breakouts. It just isn't the good solid 200 foot game the Sens want from players. Likely the cheating is from the lack of speed.
In addition to the speed, there is also a lack of quickness. Twice tonight he simply had to cover a point man and instead of the stride or two contain the player he ended up going down and swinging his stick to try and knock the puck away.
On the plus, he is young, has good hands, and there should be some good upside.
The main issue is his overall game and if he can learn and compensate enough for lack of speed to improve enough to stay in the NHL. I'm not a fan of "professionals" making $1 million plus in a year and not being in top shape - it's a lack of respect for the team that is paying you and a burden for the people you play with. He has mainly played with Alfie, which always showcases players to their best.
IMHO Lats is still a project, and I would like the see how it progresses before getting to locked in.
Comments in another thread are that he is what we hope Stone will develop into. I sure as heck have a lot more hopes for Stone than where Lats is right now. That would be a major disappointment.
And I do watch the games, and have half a half season ticket. Watching in person is much better to see how a player is doing away from the puck than the TV.
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Geez, people want to get rid of Greening yet want to keep Latendresse which makes no sense to me at all. Greening works hard all over the ice, Latendresse is a cherry picker. Greening hits all over the ice, he put Gionta out with a hard hit tonight & led the team in hits, Latendresse rarely hits. Greening has 13 pts Latendresse has 7 pts & only played 14 games this yr, he has injury issues. Greening is a work out machine, Latendresse came into the season out of shape. Greening is the fastest guy on the team & Latendressse could be the slowest forward on the team. Greening is also ten times better defensively. Most keep thinking Latendresse is going to break out but don't give Greening any credit for his play even when he does well. Makes no sense.
so we finally get a big player with decent hands and the guy that loves big player the most hates him?
i wonder if your hate for him is really that you hate the fact that people would take him over greening. there are a few reasons for people liking latendresse:
1 - hands, he has them. greening, not so much
2- offesive ability/sense. latendresse>greening
in all other categories, greening is better. this makes greening the better athlete, but not the better hockey player (or at least top six forward). latendresse does hit people. it looks to me like he enjoys throwing his body around. there's one problem: he often arrives to late to make a hit. he doesn't often pass up the opportunity when to make a hit when it is there, though. latendresse is often injured, but what if he could stay healthy? look at him when he's not healthy, he has a high ppg than greening. let him get physically back into things and see what he can do. yes, he can stay healthy. what's that? no he can't because he's never done it before? so we can predict the future 100% accurately by looking at the past? give him a chance. so far when we have, he's put up some points.
finally, we don't want to give up greening so much as we think we can trade him because he has value. we want to upgrade our top six, and we can use greening to do that. we like greening, but when we talk about offense, he's not going to be someone we can turn to whereas latendresse is.
