Players don't have to dominate in the AHL to be ready for the NHL.. especially defenseman, not a lot of them "dominate" the AHL just need to be physically and mentally ready is the most important thing. I don't think anyone questions Liliegren's game not being NHL ready or having the skills to play in the NHL....
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Players don't have to dominate in the AHL to be ready for the NHL.. especially defenseman, not a lot of them "dominate" the AHL just need to be physically and mentally ready is the most important thing. I don't think anyone questions Liliegren's game not being NHL ready or having the skills to play in the NHL....
KirkAlbuquerque
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Were up to the 4th Liljegren thread? Christ, you would think he was drafted 1OA. Jack Hughes is still only at 2 
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Ironically we’re up to the 4th thread because of pointless posts like yours and this here replyWere up to the 4th Liljegren thread? Christ, you would think he was drafted 1OA. Jack Hughes is still only at 2
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Liljegren was drafted in 2017...what did you expect? People to not talk about him doing well in that time? Look at other 2017 threads, they're not on their first or second one either.Were up to the 4th Liljegren thread? Christ, you would think he was drafted 1OA. Jack Hughes is still only at 2
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He had almost a full thread (may have been on the 2nd) by the time he was drafted because he was talked about as a potential top 5 pick the year prior to his draft season. Had a lot of hype before his draft season, a lot of talk during his draft season because of how up and down it was, and then you have a year and a half post being drafted by easily the largest fanbase on this site (which lead to Leaf hype, and people whining about Leaf hype, like your post becoming rampant).Were up to the 4th Liljegren thread? Christ, you would think he was drafted 1OA. Jack Hughes is still only at 2
It's crazy if you are completely oblivious to context, but here we are.
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Saw him against utica and was not impressed made some bad pinches and was cought being cute on the first goal it was likly a bad game and nothing to worry about but when i watch him play i see all the tools but whenever he tries to really push to make difference he gets cought and beat alot just my 2 cents
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Yeah I don't trust that you've actually watched at all.
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Watched four games of the playoffs last year and Holl stood out. Best Marlies Dman in those games.
I can guarantee I have attended more live Marlie games than you.
Either that or you don't know what to look for
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What exactly has he done that's underwhelming as an 18 year old playing in the AHL? Genuinely curious because I hardly watch the Marlies at all.
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Curious where in the lineup he's playing?
I know he's not been pressboxed this year at all, but I'm not following the Marlies/AHL much of all this year. His numbers seem underwhelming for a guy who was drafted as an offensive D with limited defensive ability. Seems like the rest of the team around him is scoring at a decent clip.
looking beyond the fact that you have displayed significant bias against the Leafs for years on end in this forum.
I can guarantee that I've not only watched more Marlies than you,
I can also guarantee that I've watched more of all of Liljegren's comparable prospects than you have too, and that I also know what to look for better than you too, comes with the territory of doing work that requires you to watch 8-10+ hours of gametape a day.
But even if you choose not to believe that, which I assume will be your response. I don't need that to know that you actually have no idea what you're talking about when it concerns anything about the Leafs (Or perhaps just hockey related in general....).
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He was playing on the first pairing untill the first goal then went into the blender for a while playing with multiple partners then back to the first pairing he looks great playing a safe game but when he trys things it doesnt work often his skillset is miles ahead of his ability to read the play which is both understandable at his age and concerning i would think he is further away than some seem to think
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newfy
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And what job requires you to watch 8-10 hours of game tape a day?
Gamble9
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Last year i proble watched 25 games live or on leafs tv in a hr i do have a idea it was my first live game this year and thats what i thought i noticed the same thing most nights ive watched him hes going to be a nhl player for sure im just less certain his offense will translate i preffer his game when hes safe and makes smart plays when he pushes the play or challenges players on the rush he gets beat alot
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Not sure if the high end offensive zone IQ is there (or will be). His breakout passes seem very good and game away from the puck made good leaps last year. If the offense doesn't pan out at a high level but other areas continue to progress I think he'll be more of a good 2nd pairing puck mover with solid defense. Button got heat for comparing him more to a Trevor Daley type than a pure offensive D, but if you get a near-peak Dailey type player at 17, you're doing pretty good imo (his good years seem to be forgotten/underrated). I think he probably needs all this year in AHL and at least part of next year (maybe getting a look 2nd half of next season, sort of like Dermott). Can't really see him getting much of a look this year (barring several D injuries). I think he'll still get some points at the next level, but more from quick, simple offensive zone passes/plays and from feeding guys breakout passes who convert on the rush than from controlling the play offensively.
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Why would you go to all these games when you hate anything leaf related? Seems like a waste of time no?
I generally go to watch specific players or visiting teams... unlike you, I am a hockey fan, not a fan of one team.
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@Haatley is dead. He deserves it, too. He’s never posted a single reply that was worth reading on these forums.
Actual scouts likely don't watch 8-10 hours a day of "game film" a week much less a day so i'm also curious as well why this guy has to watch all this AHL hockey?!?!
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