RD Moritz Seider (2019, 6th, DET) Part 2

[The Zermanator]

@OgeeOgelthorpe Funny, Lidstrom and Pronger were exactly who I thought of when I watch Seider. He plays a hard-hitting, physically imposing game like Pronger, but also a cerebral one like Lidstrom. Gotta say I'm just as bullish on him.

He's a high draft pick (picked by someone who played with Lidstrom...), and he's excelled and distinguished himself at every level so far. I have very little doubt he will continue that into the NHL.

 

[raymond23]

 

[Christien]

Scored a goal so far today

 

[Tetsuo]

Scored a goal so far today

Yeah this Seider kid looks good, might turn out to be a solid Top 4 shutdown D.

 

[deca guard]

 

[Gliff]

I love this guy. He is the only defensive prospect I would take over Drysdale.

 

[MNRube]

Reminds me of a taller Doughty. Not quite as good of a skater but has better reach and strength. They both are just dogs out there and love to compete.

 

[Martinez]

Sometimes when watching his highlights I forget he’s playing in a men’s league

 

[Gargyn]

Reminds me of a taller Doughty. Not quite as good of a skater but has better reach and strength. They both are just dogs out there and love to compete.

Doughty has a much harder shot. I don’t see the comparison at all actually. Seider will be very good. Doughty is very good. But stylistically I don’t see much in terms of similarities.

 

[Preposterone]

Doughty has a much harder shot. I don’t see the comparison at all actually. Seider will be very good. Doughty is very good. But stylistically I don’t see much in terms of similarities.

Their offensive skillsets are not similar at all, but I can see the comparison from their off puck play. They're both extremely aggressive in terms of positioning in the neutral zone and defending off the rush. Seider has that doughty-esque ability to completely dismantle a forecheck with patience on the puck and well timed distribution as well.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Reminds me of a taller Doughty. Not quite as good of a skater but has better reach and strength. They both are just dogs out there and love to compete.

What?

This is a terrible comparison. Every time I see it tossed out on this board it makes me cringe.

 

[Unfriendly Ghost]

Berggren is going to be happy to never play against him again.

 

[MNRube]

What?

This is a terrible comparison. Every time I see it tossed out on this board it makes me cringe.

How many other RHD are there that compete as hard as Doughty? It's obvious when you watch Seider that he too has that rare competitive streak. Calm down.

 

[MNRube]

Their offensive skillsets are not similar at all, but I can see the comparison from their off puck play. They're both extremely aggressive in terms of positioning in the neutral zone and defending off the rush. Seider has that doughty-esque ability to completely dismantle a forecheck with patience on the puck and well timed distribution as well.

Exactly. Most elite RHD are puck movers - Hamilton, Spurgeon, Karlsoon, Pietrangelo, Makar. Its rare we get a good RHD with a chip on their shoulder and enough skill on the top pair - there are only a handful in the league right now in Doughty/Parakyo and maybe someone im missing.

 

[Claypool]

Seider understands that hitting a guy and taking him out of the play is part of playing good defensively.

 

[Bank Shot]

Exactly. Most elite RHD are puck movers - Hamilton, Spurgeon, Karlsoon, Pietrangelo, Makar. Its rare we get a good RHD with a chip on their shoulder and enough skill on the top pair - there are only a handful in the league right now in Doughty/Parakyo and maybe someone im missing.

So Weber without the shot?

 

[Henkka]

So Weber without the shot?

Think those Chelios comparisons have been the best.

Pain in the ass to play against with some great skill.

 

[TheMule93]

So Weber without the shot?

Hes got the physicality of weber, thats about it. Hes a much more mobile player which is why he was drawing comparisons to Hedman

 

[Gargyn]

Think those Chelios comparisons have been the best.

Pain in the ass to play against with some great skill.

Chelios was a complete asshole out there. Seider has a great attitude but is just very competitive. I guess they get similar results but through different means. Seider might have a similar career to McAvoy. Both skate well and like to take care of the defensive end first and hit pretty much everything they can. Both pass extremely well and that is their best attribute offensively. Neither has a huge shot but both can get it on net for rebounds and get the odd goal.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Chelios was a complete asshole out there. Seider has a great attitude but is just very competitive. I guess they get similar results but through different means. Seider might have a similar career to McAvoy. Both skate well and like to take care of the defensive end first and hit pretty much everything they can. Both pass extremely well and that is their best attribute offensively. Neither has a huge shot but both can get it on net for rebounds and get the odd goal.

Different eras. Defensemen were expected to be assholes back then, and Chelios was on the 1st team all stars of assholes every season of his prime.

I'm sure if Seider played in the 80s and 90s he'd have been as much an asshole as Chelios was.

 

[newfy]

Chelios was a complete asshole out there. Seider has a great attitude but is just very competitive. I guess they get similar results but through different means. Seider might have a similar career to McAvoy. Both skate well and like to take care of the defensive end first and hit pretty much everything they can. Both pass extremely well and that is their best attribute offensively. Neither has a huge shot but both can get it on net for rebounds and get the odd goal.

I think Seider might be seen as that modern day Chelios though. The leagues way softer now so he wont be like Chelios was, but relative to the league, he might be one of the most hated, high end dmen. Its not like hes Kronwall who just throws big open ice hits but is pretty quiet everywhere else. Seider will clear you out out front and is in every scrum

 

[deca guard]

what i notice about seider is his acceleration from a dead dig , plus agility / athleticism . though have to add in very quick thinking with size and ruggedness . its a very rare mix to get somebody so big and powerful with his quick step and agility , thats why hes getting to so many hits . hes quick and agile in all his body movements like last week when he spun around and poked the puck off opponants stick . i was shocked at how fast he spun a 180 and got his stick reached around guy and exactly on puck , hes always taking pucks from opponants . to me theres nobody out there in recent memory to compare him to

 

[deca guard]

 

[smokes lets go]

Hes got the physicality of weber, thats about it. Hes a much more mobile player which is why he was drawing comparisons to Hedman

A better skating Seabrook?

 

[Gliff]

So many great little defensive plays. I love this guy.