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What? Like who?All this talk about him -not- playing in the NHL and yet there are worse people playing in it and no one’s mentioning that.
What? Like who?All this talk about him -not- playing in the NHL and yet there are worse people playing in it and no one’s mentioning that.
This aint it chiefPeople like you think they are living morally when they are living by their own set of morals. Easy to meet your own standard of morality isnt it. Seems to me the guy your judging here is just honest with himself about humans in general.
Good for you then, seriously. Most people, I think they probably have had a moral breach at the same level like he did.
You have points. I just call out low standards.He/she isnt wrong regarding the relative nature of morality.
This country votes for politicians who have blood on their hands. En masse. Our foreign policy is predicated on bombing people (both parties).
Or the millions of us who buy items we know was made by slave labor overseas. Are we not contributing to the problem human exploitation?
Yet we cast out a hockey player for something he did at 14?
Nobody is defeding Miller. Rather a legitimate argument can be had regarding the issue of ‘does the punishment fit the crime’.
Yeah because most other countries aren't ready to throw somebody's entire life away over some BS that happened when they were in their early teens.I’m not sure still playing hockey professionally is “writing off somebody’s life entirely”.
It’s facing consequences for your actions. If the consequence is simply, you can’t make millions of dollars playing hockey at the highest level but can still make a ton of money playing in lower levels… I think he’ll survive.
Probably only euro league to sign him and didn't want to go to Russia due to the war.I’ve wondered why he chose the Slovakian league. At this rate, he could have the highest scoring season of any defenseman in the history of the league.
More than half of these are less bad than what he did, fwiwDid he murder anyone? no
Did he rape anyone? no
Did he stole money, or anything valuable? no
Did he drink and drive and cause a death of a friend or anyone else? no
Did he do drugs? no
Did he sell drugs? no
Did he destroy school property? no
...an incident which his wife denied ever happened, and which either way didn't seriously affect their relationship given that they celebrated their wedding after and remain married to this day. Despite that Voynov never came back.You can't even credit the NHL for this. They were open to bringing Slava Voynov back after choking his wife and putting her face through a TV as an adult.
Yeah, definitely never happened:...an incident which his wife denied ever happened, and which either way didn't seriously affect their relationship given that they celebrated their wedding after and remain married to this day. Despite that Voynov never came back.
60-80k is the regular ECHL salary. It is also very close to the salary most young guys on NHL ELCs make in the AHL. So people make do, I guess and the point of your comment is not exactly clear. Hockey players are impoverished class?64k a year is barely liveable in a lot of city’s in North America especially with a family.
How about those who don't defend him, but who believe there are circumstances where he could eventually earn another shot? Do they need therapy?Here’s truth.
If you defend Miller, you need therapy. Full stop. You have problems.
As you can see it's not evident that the alleged incident was in any way characterized by malice, and the alleged victim has been steadfast in asserting that there was no such thing. I don't see how someone should be canned for life for something that ambiguous, and Voynov already paid the price according to the worst interpretation of the outcome.Yeah, definitely never happened:
At a hearing on 15 December 2014, an officer testified that Varlamova told police Voynov punched, kicked, and choked her, and that her face was cut after Voynov pushed her into a flat-screen television. The officer also testified to seeing a laceration above Varlamova's left eye, blood streaming, and red marks on her neck. Voynov's attorney claimed that the police misunderstood Varlamova because she does not speak English and maintained she "fell down." On 16 December 2014, TMZ published a letter Varlamova wrote to the Los Angeles County District Attorney asserting that he had not intended to injure her and requesting that Voynov not be charged.
On 2 July 2015, Voynov pleaded no contest to a reduced misdemeanor charge and was sentenced to 90 days in jail. He received three years of probation and was ordered to attend counseling.
A person who has 20 million in the bank wouldn’t have give the time of day to come on this website and make this comment.Here’s truth.
If you defend Miller, you need therapy. Full stop. You have problems.
A person who has 20 million in the bank wouldn’t have give the time of day to come on this website and make this comment.
Don’t judge others until you fix yourself
How about those who don't defend him, but who believe there are circumstances where he could eventually earn another shot? Do they need therapy?
How about the fact that he apologized to the teams in the league pre-draft, but never the kid he abused?
This is mind blowing. It's not just the old boys club in the NHL that knows the names. It's also the media. The media. The people who collect pay to report on this.8 members of Canada’s 2018 world junior team did worse. Still can't believe no name surfaced...
He did apologize to the kid. It was court mandated and entered into public records.
Stop believing the nonsense that the victim's spiteful mother has told the press.
When you're deliberately ignorant to how domestic violence victims act.As you can see it's not evident that the alleged incident was in any way characterized by malice, and the alleged victim has been steadfast in asserting that there was no such thing. I don't see how someone should be canned for life for something that ambiguous, and Voynov already paid the price according to the worst interpretation of the outcome.
No matter how you look at it it's not comparable to Miller whose actions were very clearly malicious, deliberate, and left behind a traumatized victim.