Any GM who gives up a first or second for a 30 year old, career role player with one 20 goal season, and a career high of 38 points should immediately be fired.
TSN: Ray Ferarro: Jannik Hansen's price should be 1st + good player/Prospect
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Exactly, he will get one or the other coming the other way. A pick or a prospect but not both.
Any fan that thinks Hansen's value is determined by points should watch more hockey.
What demands?
This entire thread is based on the opinion of an analyst. Nobody actually knows what the nucks are asking or even if he's being shopped
Hansen would help any playoff team. If your team traded for him, you would not be disappointed with his work ethic.
I dont see any point in trading him until next year unless the offer is for a cant miss prospect who fills a hole in our organization that is expansion draft exempt.
Hansen isnt a point producing machine, but he has proven to get points when playing with more skilled players,while being the 1st guy back to cover the declining Sedin's speed, not that it was all that quick anyway.
I dont see any point in trading him until next year unless the offer is for a cant miss prospect who fills a hole in our organization that is expansion draft exempt.
Hansen isnt a point producing machine, but he has proven to get points when playing with more skilled players,while being the 1st guy back to cover the declining Sedin's speed, not that it was all that quick anyway.
wouldn't the point be to get picks/prospects for a team that is clearly going nowhere at present? VAN desperately need to get more talent, especially young talent . Keeping Hansen so they are less bad makes no sense.
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So a season where he had Rielly take a flying run at him and then Perrault knee him in the knee is the defining season of his career. Good to know. Thanks for showing how much you follow outside your bubble.
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Lol, right. . . Cuz opposing teams GM's only stat watch and don't look at the little details each player brings to the table . . . Cmon man
Guess Eric Staal, Mats Zuccarello, Nick Foligno are worth more in trade than Anze Kopitar, Patrice Bergeron, Jonathan Toews eh? Since you know, only points matter when it comes to trade value like you're trying to say .
The above would be true if Hansen was a UFA after the season. Which of course, he isn't. As a Canuck fan, I'd rather they hold onto Hansen a move him next year. Your only motivation to move him this year is for a great return. I'm not optimistic with Benning at the helm.
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I'm not saying only points matter.
I'm saying intangibles don't increase your trade value. Especially if the most you've ever done is notch 39 points. The players you listed are in a different stratosphere than Hansen and not comparable.
You're good at hyperbole though.
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BlueOil
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The other GMs are well aware Hansen is a career 0.41 PPG player. Stat watching is literally the only way you could delude yourself into thinking he's worth trading for...and you're still only looking at a career high of 39 points.
Every team has players like this and every year someone transitions from a one hit wonder back to a 3rd liner. The team possessing that player always hopes to trade them away to improve, but they just aren't worth much because the league is saturated with them all the time.
Again, he's worth way more to the team he's on than in a trade or on the open market.
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What an absolutely absurd claim.
I guarantee GMs have upped what they're willing to pay because of a player's intangibles.
A player's value is dictated by his abilities, which include intangibles along with physical and measurable qualities.
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The Canucks best forward 5 vs 5, one of the best SH. Not a lot of great competition with the slide of the Sedins, but still their best forward.
Don't think so? Here's his 5 vs 5 offensive numbers over the last 2 years. Consider he's also the best defensive forward at the top of this list:
http://stats.hockeyanalysis.com/rat...9&type=individual&sort=ipoints60&sortdir=DESC
Most here don't even know who Hansen is apparently.
Don't think so? Here's his 5 vs 5 offensive numbers over the last 2 years. Consider he's also the best defensive forward at the top of this list:
http://stats.hockeyanalysis.com/rat...9&type=individual&sort=ipoints60&sortdir=DESC
Most here don't even know who Hansen is apparently.
His value is B prospect and a 2nd round pick, not a "good player" and a 1st round pick.
Hansen is a good all-around player, but 30 yo 3rd line wingers aren't in crazy demand these days. Especially when more and more young players are making impacts in the NHL. Because of this, picks and prospects are valued more now, than ever before.
Examples of fair value for Hansen:
- Samuel Blais and a 2nd from Blues
- Curtis Lazar and 2nd from Sens
- Danton Heinen and 2nd from Bruins
- Michael Amadio and 2nd from Kings
Hansen is a good all-around player, but 30 yo 3rd line wingers aren't in crazy demand these days. Especially when more and more young players are making impacts in the NHL. Because of this, picks and prospects are valued more now, than ever before.
Examples of fair value for Hansen:
- Samuel Blais and a 2nd from Blues
- Curtis Lazar and 2nd from Sens
- Danton Heinen and 2nd from Bruins
- Michael Amadio and 2nd from Kings
BlueOil
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If you can guarantee, surely you can provide a list of players recently traded for more than their worth due to intangibles.
Much ado about nothing but a 3rd line role player on a struggling team. Just because he's a bright spot doesn't mean he's a shining star.
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Erik Gudbranson, Kevin Bieksa, Brandon Sutter, Andrew Shaw, Lars Eller...
Just off the top of my head.
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All weak offer that don't get you Jannik Hansen. If you were seeking Daniel Winnik, maybe. But not Hansen.
yea yea I know, i heard that benning is shopping hansen but refuses to trade him within our division.
Value goes by supply and demand. Not by someones opinion. This is what you think, and calling it fair value is a bit unfair. Calling him a 3rd liner is also demeaning. Have you got any proof to that claim?
But the market will tell us what his value is. If he gets traded at all. If he does, hope he gets his chance to win the cup again
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