Rate the players on your team by Defensive ability

Nithoniniel

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Sep 7, 2012
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Disagree quite severely with Eric Robson above about the Leafs. Komarov for example is a very good defensive player still, even though he's not quite the same anymore there either. He still has a pronounced defensive impact, and if you look at heat maps his side of the ice tends to be quite dead in terms of shots and chances. It's just that it's now the only thing he can provide.

Problem with our forwards last year is that most of our defensively reliable forwards got limited minutes because they are not very strong overall. These numbers put them as quite average, but would plummet if you adjusted for ice time.

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HaNotsri

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Dec 29, 2013
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Buffalo
5
Ryan O’Reilly
4
Scandella
3
Jack Eichel
Sam Reinhart
2.
Okposo
Ristolainen
Rodrigues
Girgensons
Larsson (we tend to overrate him)
Guhle
1.
McCabe
Bogo
Bealieu
 
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rent free

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From some highlights I've seen he seems to be good at shutting down individual players when given that task. Any truth to that or are those just outliers?
Probably outliers. Maybe he does well when u watch.
 

HaNotsri

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Dec 29, 2013
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Is that a joke?
Assumed 3=better than average, reread OP and the scale is a bit weird.
I’d hand Jack and Reinhart an extra point with the current scale. Rhino is better as a traditional defensive forward but Jack solves a lot of difficult situations with his strength and speed.

I don’t agree with your assessment of Girgensons, he works hard but tend to make bad decisions. Could be the overall confusion of the team. It’s hard to look good when the team is terrible as a whole.
 

57special

Posting the right way since 2012.
Sep 5, 2012
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MN
5
Suter
Spurgeon
Brodin
Koivu

4
Granlund
Coyle
Eriksson-Ek(with a bullet. Looking like Koivu's successor).

3
Staal
Zucker
Nino
Dumba
Cullen
Seeler
Prosser( might be high, but he's figured out things in the NHL)
Winnik
Parise

2
Foligno(was trending upwards in his final 10 games)
Murphy

1
Ennis( he probably doesn't deserve this, but he is the ultimate whipping boy)
 
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CanadienShark

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Dec 18, 2012
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5 - Vlasic
4 - Braun
4 - Ryan
3 - Dillon
3 - Burns
2 - DeMelo

5 - Couture
5 - Pavelski
5 - Hertl
4 - Thornton
4 - Tierney
3.5 - Kane
3 - Donskoi
3 - Boedker
3 - Sorensen
3 - Fehr
3 - Meier
2 - Labanc
 
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cgf

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Oct 15, 2010
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He'll shut you down in the sense that he'll spend a good chunk of his shifts cycling in your end, and if that fails he'll forecheck and agitate you into taking a penalty hopefully. That one game against McDavid was his very best work, if he can bring that every night he'd be a 5. Looking purely his work in the defensive zone he's probably a 2.5 on average, but on the whole he's probably closer to a 3.5 in terms of limiting how much time his opponent is generating good scoring chances.

For what it's worth many avs fans felt he did a great job of trying to keep up with MacKinnon and harrassing him into limiting the damage he did against the leafs. So maybe it's more of a "when he gets up for the challenge" type deal where he plays his best defense when up against the best in the league? Didn't watch more than 10 leafs games this year, so I'll take you guys' word on it.
 

Raccoon Jesus

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Oct 30, 2008
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Forwards:
5- Kopitar
4- Lewis, Carter
3- Brown, Toffoli (3.5), Iafallo, Clifford, Amadio, Thompson
2- Pearson, Kempe, Mitchell, Brodzinski
1- Andreoff, Rieder

D
5- Doughty
4- Muzzin, Phaneuf
3- Martinez (3.5), Forbort (3.5), Folin
2-LaDue, Gravel
 
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Dabruins

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Mar 15, 2003
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Ill give the Bruins a go.

Bergeron - 5.5
Marchand - 4.5
Riley Nash - 4
Rick Nash - 3.5
Backes - 3.5
Kuraly - 3.5
Acciari - 3.5
Krejci - 3
Pasta - 3
Wingels - 3
DeBrusk - 3
Heinen - 3
Schaller - 3
Donato - 2

Chara - 5
K. Miller - 4
McQuaid - 4
Carlo - 3.5
McAvoy - 3
Gryz - 3
Krug - 2
 
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Alexander the Gr8

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May 2, 2013
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:caps

Ovechkin - 2
Kuznetsov - 3
Wilson - 4
Stephenson - 4
Backstrom - 5
Oshie - 5
Connolly - 1
Eller - 3
DSP - 3
Vrana - 2
Beagle - 3
Chiasson - 3
Walker - 2
Gersich - 1
Boyd - 2

Kempny - 3
Carlson - 3
Niskanen - 4
Orlov - 3
Djoos - 2
Orpik - 3
Jerabek - 3
 

Montecristo

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Jul 29, 2012
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Bergeron-5
Marchand-4
Pastrnak-2
Debrusk-3
Krejci-3
Nash-3
Heinen-3
Nash-3
Backes-3
Schaller-3
Kuraly-3
Acciari-2

Chara-5
Mcavoy-3
Krug-2
Carlo-4
Miller-4
Grzcelyk-3
Mcquaid-4

Rask 3
 
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um

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Sep 4, 2008
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Backstrom 4.5
Eller 4.0
Oshie 4.0
Beagle 4.0
Wilson 4.0
Stephenson 4.0
Kuznetsov 3.0
Pelly 3.0
Ovechkin 2.5
Chiasson 2.5
Connolly 2.0
Burakovsky 2.0
Vrana 1.5

Niskanen 4.5
Orlov 4.0
Carlson 4.0
Orpik 3.5
Kempny 3.5
Djoos 2.5
Jerabek 2.5
 
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Maukkis

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Let's give this a shot.

5: Lowry (literally one of the best in the league)
4.5: Morrissey, Trouba, Armia
4: Copp, Byfuglien, Enstrom
3.5: Tanev, Perreault, Kulikov, Little, Wheeler
3: Scheifele, Connor, Chiarot, Stastny
2.5: Myers
2: Ehlers, Laine
1.5: Hendricks
1:
 
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BonMorrison

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Jun 17, 2011
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5: Subban, Ekholm
4: Josi, Ellis, Bonino, Watson, Jarnkrok, Forsberg
3: Weber, Sissons, Turris, Johansen, Arvidsson, Fisher, Hartman
2: Irwin, Emelin, Bitetto, Fiala, Salomaki
1: Hartnell, Smith

If Josi and Ellis keep up their playoffs play into next season, drop them to a 3. Ekholm is more of a 4.5 but I didn't want to do decimals.
 

Maukkis

EZ4ENCE
Mar 16, 2016
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5: Subban, Ekholm
4: Josi, Ellis, Bonino, Watson, Jarnkrok, Forsberg
3: Weber, Sissons, Turris, Johansen, Arvidsson, Fisher, Hartman
2: Irwin, Emelin, Bitetto, Fiala, Salomaki
1: Hartnell, Smith

If Josi and Ellis keep up their playoffs play into next season, drop them to a 3. Ekholm is more of a 4.5 but I didn't want to do decimals.
You're suggesting that Subban is a 5? Laughable.
 

Maukkis

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Mar 16, 2016
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Not at all. He's an awesome shutdown d-man if asked to play the role. Truly an elite two way d-man.
Agree to disagree, I guess. The stuff I saw from him in the past two weeks suggests that the offensive side of his game is on point, but defensively, he makes horrendous mistakes.
 

Legionnaire11

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Jul 12, 2007
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atlantichockeyleague.com
Subban can definitely be a 5, but I'd probably put him somewhere between 4 and 5 because of consistency and focus. If he was told to just be a shutdown D and nothing else he could be the best in the league, but he's a two-way defender who likes to dazzle offensively and that can often hurt his overall defensive focus. I think that's what we saw this season, he was in the norris race and needed to show off to prove himself, he was still awesome defensively but definitely had moments where he fell short and even had some downright embarrassing plays in his zone.
 
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