Rank First Round D Picks for the Last 2 Years

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  1. highlight22

    highlight22 Registered User

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    Rank Them Based on how you see their Careers going.

    2010 Draft Order
    Erik Gudbranson
    Dylan McIlrath
    Cam Fowler
    Brandon Gormley
    Derek Forbort
    Mark Pysyk
    Jarred Tinordi

    2011 Draft Order
    Adam Larsson
    Dougie Hamilton
    Jonas Brodin
    Duncan Siemens
    Ryan Murphy
    Jamie Oleksiak
    Nathan Beaulieu
    Oscar Klefbom
    Connor Murphy
    Joe Morrow
    Stuart Percy
     
  2. QMJHLfollower

    QMJHLfollower Heart and soul

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    Adam Larsson
    Cam Fowler
    Dougie Hamilton
    Oscar Klefbom
    Erik Gudbranson
    Brandon Gormley
    Ryan Murphy
    Jonas Brodin
    Derek Forbort
    Jamie Oleksiak
    Nathan Beaulieu
    Duncan Siemens
    Joe Morrow
    Dylan McIlrath
    Stuart Percy
    Mark Pysyk
    Jarred Tinordi
    Connor Murphy
     
  3. highlight22

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    Solid List. Whats the main reason you have Klefbom so high?, Where do you see the cut off for the ones that make the NHL fulltime?
     
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    I think all of them has a good shot at making the NHL.

    For Klefbom, I put him that high because his game is very complete. Very solid offensively, moves the puck very well, underrated defensive game potential, very big, physical, and a solid leader (U18 Sweden captain).
     
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    1. Cam Fowler
    2. Ryan Murphy
    3. Dougie Hamilton
    4. Adam Larsson
    5. Jonas Brodin
    6. Jarred Tinordi
    7. Oscar Klefbom
    8. Nathan Beaulieu
    9. Brandon Gormley
    10. Dylan McIlrath
    HM. Stuart Percy
     
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    2010 Draft Order
    2-Erik Gudbranson
    5-Dylan McIlrath
    1-Cam Fowler
    3-Brandon Gormley
    4-Derek Forbort
    6-Mark Pysyk
    5-Jarred Tinordi

    2011 Draft Order
    1-Adam Larsson
    3-Dougie Hamilton
    8-Jonas Brodin
    6-Duncan Siemens
    2-Ryan Murphy
    7-Jamie Oleksiak
    4-Nathan Beaulieu
    5-Oscar Klefbom
    9-Connor Murphy
    9-Joe Morrow


    That's how I see them.
     
  7. Only doing top 10;

    1.Adam Larsson
    2.Cam Fowler
    3.Dougie Hamilton
    4.Eric Gudbranson
    5.Brandon Gormely
    6.Jonas Brodin
    7.Duncan Siemens
    8.Ryan Murphy
    9.Oscar Klefbom
    10.Nathan Beaulieu
     
  8. Huge homer-ism :laugh:
     
  9. Harry Kakalovich

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    That or maybe I believe in the Button...

    Some people say he looked horrid last year, others say he might play top 4 and be 6'7 and mean. It's not like anyone smart will bet their life on my list, so I'll stick to my hunches. But you are absolutely right to point out I'm well outside the consensus all the way through my list, but on Tinordi especially.
     
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    Adam Larsson
    Cam Fowler
    Ryan Murphy
    Erik Gudbranson
    Dougie Hamilyon

    My top 5
     
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    Im not going to do a whole list but I dont agree with some people selling Pysyk so low.

    Almost a lock for the WJC for Canada, was a plus 30 for the oil kings last year.

    Potential number 2 compliment player for a flashy number 1.

    And his hockey IQ is fantastic
     
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    2010 Draft Order
    Cam Fowler
    Erik Gudbranson
    Brandon Gormley
    Derek Forbort
    Dylan McIlrath
    Mark Pysyk
    Jarred Tinordi

    2011 Draft Order
    Adam Larsson
    Ryan Murphy
    Dougie Hamilton
    Duncan Siemens
    Oscar Klefbom
    Nathan Beaulieu
    Jonas Brodin
    Jamie Oleksiak
    Connor Murphy
    Joe Morrow
    Stuart Percy
     
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    Draft position, non-flashy, decent but not spectacular year. Nothing wrong with being underrated. I think he'll end up better than some of those drafted before him, but I don't expect him to turn heads until he gets to the NHL. Hell, I don't even expect him to turn a lot of heads while he's in the NHL, guys like Lydman or Tallinder were under the radar for quite some time.
     
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    Where would Rundblad fit in this list? Possibly the top dmen? An obvious top 3 or top 5?
     
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    Adam Larson
    Dougie Hamilton
    Brandon Gormley
    Cam Fowler
    Ryan Murphy
    Jonas Brodin
    Erik Gudbranson
    Nathan Beaulieu
    Derek Forbort
    Jarred Tinordi
    Duncan Siemens
    Jamie Oleksiak
    Oscar Klefbom
    Joe Morrow
    Connor Murphy
    Mark Pysyk
    Dylan McIlrath
    Stuart Percy
     
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    better to not starting 2009 guys into this list, otherwise might as well add Ellis, Kulikov, etc., which gets too difficult
     
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    Murphy=Overrated, why do you think so many teams passed on him. Very one-dimensioal...
     
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    With all of these young players, they're being ranked/drafted on pure potential, and factoring in risk. Murphy had some more risk, but his "potential" is higher than Siemens, Brodin or even Fowler.

    People who look at my rankings, or anyone elses on this post, and say "how can you have X player over Y player" or "X player is too low", it's totally impossible to say.

    Within this group, there aren't that many players that truly separate themselves from the others around them. Put it another way: how many of these 18 guys have legit Norris potential? Maybe only 5 or 6 will develop to that kind of level. So a lot of these guys are pretty close to each other from one to the next down the list.
     
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    Just wondering, why is everyone so low on Siemens? Solid game even despite his being one of the youngest players in the draft. I haven't seen him play, but I hear that if he figures a few things out he could be a very strong defender and that a lot of people downplay his upside since he's a physical player.
     
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    Philadelphia Ducks Win it for Ed

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    Fowler
    Larsson
    Gudbranson
    Hamilton
    Siemens
    Gormley
    Klefbom
    R Murphy
    Brodin
    Oleksiak
    Tinordi
    Beaulieu

    Left out the ones I really don't know much about.
     
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    Well, one could argue that Siemens doesn't have the same 2-way or, specifically, the offensive upside or elite hockey sense that some of the other guys have. At the same time, he may be one of the "safer" picks and ranks very high from the perspective of leadership, character & intangibles.

    When ranking a list like this, you're pretty much trying to rank the degree of impact each player can make as an individual. That is the key to remember, and a separate issue from how each one of those guys may fit into a whole team or organization.

    Siemens is a guys that may not have the "upside" or impact of Ryan Murphy on the ice, but could have a big impact in the dressing room and compliment the other guys on that team or bring a different element than Colorado already has.

    A good analogy would be comparing a guy like Patrick Marleau to a guy like Ryan Smyth or Ryan Callahan. Marleau may be the obviously more skilled selection, but those other guys may bring an element that is more desired by certain teams, depending on the make-up of the rest of their roster.
     
  22. thestonedkoala

    thestonedkoala Everyone! PANIC!

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    Those are different defensemen.

    Murphy could become a great offensive defenseman or he could become MAB.

    The risk factor on him is huge.

    Brodin wasn't talked about on these boards but scouts definitely caught eye. The guy just turned 18 a few days ago. 17 years old and playing against guys twice his age?
     
  23. ReginKarlssonLehner

    ReginKarlssonLehner Let's Win It All

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    Klefbom is a helluva player. Underrated for sure but I think Oil fans will find a way to change that.

    Was very mad he didn't slide to Ottawa.
     
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    I don't think so. I think he's basically Canada's Cam Fowler.
     
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    Forbort isn't a flashy player, Kings drafted him because he is a big body that simply gets it done on the rink. He was drafted basically as a Matt Greene replacement that can play in the top 4. I don't think he'll ever be a top defenseman in the league, but I think he'll be one of those underrated guys that just does his job well like Scuderi or Mitchell, but with more upside offensively.
     

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