Friedman: Rangers will listen on McDonagh and Zuccarello

[Trxjw]

Thought this was interesting enough out of Friedman's 31 thoughts to have its own thread and get away from that fire sale crap.

Will Ryan McDonagh be added to that list? On Tuesday morning, the Rangers woke up one point out of the playoffs, and Henrik Lundqvist is having a Vezina-calibre season. But there is a growing sense they just don’t see it long-term and are willing to make changes. That undoubtedly means the UFAs (David Desharnais, Michael Graber, Nick Holden, Rick Nash). It also means they will listen on McDonagh and Mats Zuccarello, but only if given good reason to pursue. It’s interesting. There is a growing group of sellers, but how many buyers are there?

Does Zuccarello's extra year on a cheapish deal make him the most attractive winger that's potentially available?

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[Starat327]

He's signed for the same amount of years as the other wingers that are rumored to be available like Simmonds and Patcioretty.

It really depends on what the acquiring team needs.. a good 2 way guy, a good bet front presence and leader, or a two way guy who usually is a good sniper but having a down year.

At the end of the day, the market is getting flooded with wingers, and it doesn't bode well for anyone who is selling one.

 

[DRW204]

He's signed for the same amount of years as the other wingers that are rumored to be available like Simmonds and Patcioretty.

It really depends on what the acquiring team needs.. a good 2 way guy, a good bet front presence and leader, or a two way guy who usually is a good sniper but having a down year.

At the end of the day, the market is getting flooded with wingers, and it doesn't bode well for anyone who is selling one.

So true. Add in Hoffman and obviously evander Kane to the mix too.

What is McDonaghs next contract gonna look like? 7M+?

 

[Samuel Culper III]

McDonagh is 28 years old currently, signed this season and the next at 4.7M, averages over 25 minutes a night and puts up 35-45ish points playing mainly as a defensive guy. He should be worth a pretty penny.

Zuccarello is a really talented player who is on a sweet deal for this year and next. His cap hit is nice and low so even a contender with minimal room can fit him for a run this year and next. Similar to Paccioretty’s sweet cap hit, but probably costs a bit less. Underrated two way hustle, wins a lot of battles despite his size, great playmaker, understated shot. He’d look great in Nashville or Pittsburgh but would fit on any contender.

 

[biturbo19]

If McDonagh really is floated out there on the market...that's going to be a potential gamechanging move for somebody. Things could get really interesting if there are two legitimate #1 Defencemen on the market with a year left on their contracts in McDonagh and OEL. Have to think they're both the sort of players that'd be worth breaking the bank for with teams in a serious "contender" mode - especially given their attractive caphits for another year.

My goodness though, imagining that Rangers defence without McDonagh. Yikes.

 

[HawkeyTalkMan]

suddenly the market is becoming a buyers market and i have a feeling a lot of fanbases will be underwhelmed by returns.

on top of all the pending UFAs, if you have guys like pacioretty, zuccarello, RNH, galchenyuk, OEL, hoffman, etc then its less likely GMs panic and make overpayment with a good amount of solid backup options for UFAs or guys with term

 

[Brock Boeser Laser Show]

suddenly the market is becoming a buyers market and i have a feeling a lot of fanbases will be underwhelmed by returns.

on top of all the pending UFAs, if you have guys like pacioretty, zuccarello, RNH, galchenyuk, OEL, hoffman, etc then its less likely GMs panic and make overpayment with a good amount of solid backup options for UFAs or guys with term

it's never a buyers market and every year around this time you have big name floated around that never actually go anywhere (some of those names might get dealt but the odds are that it will be at the NHL draft in June). Actual hockey trades are really difficult to make during the season with so many obstacles in place. It makes for great TV to talk about all these big names but the trade deadline is usually a massive disappointment involving a lot of minor moves.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

Zuccarello @50%

For

Gunnarsson
Kyrou
Schmaltz
Husso

 

[HawkeyTalkMan]

it's never a buyers market and every year around this time you have big name floated around that never actually go anywhere (some of those names might get dealt but the odds are that it will be at the NHL draft in June). Actual hockey trades are really difficult to make during the season with so many obstacles in place. It makes for great TV to talk about all these big names but the trade deadline is usually a massive disappointment involving a lot of minor moves.

I think there are a lot of GMs with their jobs on the line and feel a need to make a move.

Have to remember in the last 9 years only four teams won cups so that's been a pretty unsuccessful run for 26 other teams for the last decade

While a lot of people advocating building through the draft, bottom line is most of the league has not been successful at it when it comes to championships. It's also why paying premiums for deadline rentals have gotten so bad in recent years. They know what they get today vs holding on to futures which might be a future coin toss anyway

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

McDonagh

For

Johnson
2018 1st
Texier
Carlsson

 

[Starat327]

So true. Add in Hoffman and obviously evander Kane to the mix too.

What is McDonaghs next contract gonna look like? 7M+?

Yeah I mean, for some people the extra year is nice. Other people won't be able to afford it next year. It's not always an asset to have another year of term.

As for McDonagh, yeah, if say a contract of 55-60 mil is about right, be it 8x 7.5 or 7x 8ish.

 

[stl76]

Zuccarello @50%

For

Gunnarsson
Kyrou
Schmaltz
Husso

Zucc is one of my favorite non-Blues players, but that’s too much for Saint Louis to give up. Why Husso? We need him and NYR have Shestyorkin (sp...?) in the pipeline.

 

[mikeyp24]

McDonagh

For

Johnson
2018 1st
Texier
Carlsson

Idk if you are a NYR fan or CBJ (I don't recognize the name even though I'm in there a lot I don't know all) but... I'd probably do that. It hurts so bad because I love Tex and have no doubt he is going to be a star playmaker in this league he is that damn good and I have huge biases about where he came from and the league's but watch his film and at his age doing what he is doing to men in liga... he will be the first French born player to do so many things here. Then giving up a first in a deep draft hurts and Carlson who is a huge strong kid already prepared for top 4 play... that's a shit ton to give up.

But Mac on this team makes us no worse then a final 4 team. Our D would be best in the league with Bob in net. If the offense got healthy we would have to become favorites.

 

[IWD]

That Gomez trade is about to pay off further dividends for the Rangers.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

Idk if you are a NYR fan or CBJ (I don't recognize the name even though I'm in there a lot I don't know all) but... I'd probably do that. It hurts so bad because I love Tex and have no doubt he is going to be a star playmaker in this league he is that damn good and I have huge biases about where he came from and the league's but watch his film and at his age doing what he is doing to men in liga... he will be the first French born player to do so many things here. Then giving up a first in a deep draft hurts and Carlson who is a huge strong kid already prepared for top 4 play... that's a **** ton to give up.

But Mac on this team makes us no worse then a final 4 team. Our D would be best in the league with Bob in net. If the offense got healthy we would have to become favorites.

I'm a Detroit fan. Just thought this would help both teams going forward.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Zuccarello @50%

For

Gunnarsson
Kyrou
Schmaltz
Husso

We have no need for Husso. Add Barbashev instead.

Thats a very fair trade though, in my opinion.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

McDonagh

For

Johnson
2018 1st
Texier
Carlsson

Another decent offer. We might be able to get more than this, but I don't think this is far off.

 

[mikeyp24]

I'm a Detroit fan. Just thought this would help both teams going forward.

I just saw Vatican roulette in the description thing I know who you are now I would have.known the DET if I saw the name haha. But honestly I agree and with the Torts ties to McD I'm even more behind an offer like this although I know something like this deal would never happen because NYR will want something to show their fans this year and the beat piece is still 2 years ish out. The 1st would get a cheer and Carlson could step in and play anywhere in the bottom 4 and cement himself on the 2nd pair for.now.

 

[mariolemieux66]

It will be interesting to see what Vegas does. They are holding their own against the best teams in the league.
Vegas has the draft picks, the assets and roster player to add both McDonagh and Pacioretty, while flipping one of Neal or Perron if needed.

 

[LaffyTaffy]

It will be interesting to see what Vegas does. They are holding their own against the best teams in the league.
Vegas has the draft picks, the assets and roster player to add both McDonagh and Pacioretty, while flipping one of Neal or Perron if needed.

If VGK were to pursue McD it would start with Brannstrom and a 1st...

 

[E-Train]

Good offers so far. Stl for Zucc and Clb for McD are in the ballpark.

 

[veganbruin]

From Boston
Krug + Zboril + 1st
For
McDonagh
Top 4 dman, top prospect and a late 1st rounder.

I guess really you could replace that prospect with most of our prospects at this point except maybe Bjork or JFK.

 

[Trxjw]

From Boston
Krug + Zboril + 1st
For
McDonagh
Top 4 dman, top prospect and a late 1st rounder.

I guess really you could replace that prospect with most of our prospects at this point except maybe Bjork or JFK.

Strictly speaking to need: The Rangers already have a PP specialist so Krug isn't necessary.

 

[Beacon]

Thought this was interesting

McDonagh and Zuccarello are first line/pair players on amazing contracts. McDonagh is making the same as Brendan Smith. Neither is a rental, so it's 2 playoff runs for each on the current contract. Should be large returns for both, not just some spare parts and a second rounder. McDonagh is a better player than Stepan, MZA is similar to Stepan, and both are on a better contract, though not for as long. Stepan got #7 overall and a good prospect. Presumably McDonagh gets more and MZA gets something similar.

 

[biturbo19]

McDonagh

For

Johnson
2018 1st
Texier
Carlsson

This is missing the real "centerpiece" that would have to be part of a McDonagh deal.

It's essentially an impending UFA roster player, late 1st, 2nd and a decent defence prospect for a #1D with a year remaining on a sweetheart deal? There are teams out there who would absolutely beat that and offer a better top quality centerpiece in a deal to add a player like McDonagh.