Confirmed with Link: Rangers sign Artemi Panarin (7 years, $11.64M AAV)

[The Crypto Guy]

Does he not know English? He just saw the interview he gave MSG and he had a translator?

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

I am cancelling my trip to India.

 

[Maximus]

I am however allowed to be optimistic about the future of this the and the rebuild while also considering the panarin signing a strategic misstep.

I'm glad you feel like this. All aboard the Rebuild for a Cup choo choo train....woo hoo.

You are one very rare bird tho Fritzy, seeing how is it possible to be hopeful for the future when you think we just made a colossal strategic mistake? Doesn't that sort of Kind of fly against the grain here....eh?

Correct me if I'm wrong, most if not all of the peeps in here who like you had been begging JD/JG not to sign Panarin because it would signify the end of the rebuild and we wouldn't be ready to win Cups when Panarin was still in peak form and the future was now f***ed.

Does that sound about right? The apparent "timing" wasn't perfect to bring in even a stud like the Breadman. Better off to be a competitive but crappy team, not win too much and get ourselves in the lottery one more time and maybe Cinderella would get the glass slipper again....sound about right

So for you to say you are still hopeful for the future despite JD/JG making such a huge mistake is refreshing to read albeit a bit mystifying seeing I don't see how they can go hand in hand.

That said...glad your hopeful....welcome to the club!.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

Does he not know English? He just saw the interview he gave MSG and he had a translator?

Apparently he speaks English decently but not great. He talks in the room with his teammates but uses a translator for interviews.

 

[Fitzy]

I'm glad you feel like this. All aboard the Rebuild for a Cup choo choo train....woo hoo.

You are one very rare bird tho Fritzy, seeing how is it possible to be hopeful for the future when you think we just made a colossal strategic mistake? Doesn't that sort of Kind of fly against the grain here....eh?

Correct me if I'm wrong, most if not all of the peeps in here who like you had been begging JD/JG not to sign Panarin because it would signify the end of the rebuild and we wouldn't be ready to win Cups when Panarin was still in peak form and the future was now ****ed.

Does that sound about right? The apparent "timing" wasn't perfect to bring in even a stud like the Breadman. Better off to be a competitive but crappy team, not win too much and get ourselves in the lottery one more time and maybe Cinderella would get the glass slipper again....sound about right

So for you to say you are still hopeful for the future despite JD/JG making such a huge mistake is refreshing to read albeit a bit mystifying seeing I don't see how they can go hand in hand.

That said...glad your hopeful....welcome to the club!.

I try not to be overly dramatic. The moves over the years I've disliked the most- not signing Zherdev's arbitration deal, drafting McIlrath, trading Leetch, lowballing Jagr and Nylander- all ended up being minor issues that really didn't make or break whether the team was good or not for long stretches.

I don't like the Panarin move in aggregate, for a number of reasons that I've outlined, but I don't think it 'ruins' the rebuild. It may, however, make things more interesting down the line when we need to re-sign guys for big RFA contracts, and may also prevent us from signing a big name UFA 2-3 years from now in a potentially larger area of need, such as a star center or defenseman.

That said, there are many rebuild positives to Panarin, even though I think they are outweighed.

 

[Carlos Ranger]

Does he not know English? He just saw the interview he gave MSG and he had a translator?

Nope he barely knows any english at all, he always uses interpreters in every interview

 

[Levitate]

Buchnevich and Kravtsov will probably be around to smooth over any communication issues but yeah I suspect he communicates with teammates just fine, but it's harder in front of a group of reporters

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

I am however allowed to be optimistic about the future of this team and the rebuild while also considering the panarin signing a strategic misstep.

Exactly how I feel

 

[will1066]

I think they had the exact scene at the end of the Titanic when geriatric Rose was dying in her sleep to a dream of her and Jack on board the titanic in the main ballroom with the winding staircase and all the passengers were smiling and clapping as they walked to the top of the staircase and then she died in her sleep.

Post of the summer

 

[will1066]

Buchnevich and Kravtsov will probably be around to smooth over any communication issues but yeah I suspect he communicates with teammates just fine, but it's harder in front of a group of reporters

Buy out Names. Then bring him back as Panarin's personal translator/assistant.

 

[Rongomania]

Buy out Names. Then bring him back as Panarin's personal translator/assistant.

Smith will also look great as the Captain of your Hartford Wolf Pack!

 

[pld459666]

In the last 4 years, panarin is 8th overall in points.

He is elite

Ahead of Tavares, Giroux, Seguin, MacKinnon, Ovechkin

 

[Hunter Gathers]

In the last 4 years, panarin is 8th overall in points.

He is elite

Ahead of Tavares, Giroux, Seguin, MacKinnon, Ovechkin

Yeah but he doesn’t drive a line

Or something

 

[Fitzy]

In the last 4 years, panarin is 8th overall in points.

He is elite

Ahead of Tavares, Giroux, Seguin, MacKinnon, Ovechkin

I just hope for his longevity. NJD signed an elite Kovalchuk at around the same age. The degree to which Panarin stays elite, and for how long, will matter a lot in terms of how we view this deal when it ends. Obviously they are not the same style of player, but both in that 2nd level elite tier not quite with the Kanes, McDavids, Crosbys & Ovechkins, but right behind.

If he's already down to 55-60 points a season by age 32, or god forbid follows a Semin-esque curve, people are going to come away with a bit of a bitter taste in their mouths. If he's one of those playmakers that has great fitness and longevity, then it will be looked back at as a solid deal.

The point is we don't know which.

 

[Thirty One]

Yeah but he doesn’t drive a line

Or something

Whoever says that should watch Dubois point production carefully this season.

 

[pld459666]

I just hope for his longevity. NJD signed an elite Kovalchuk at around the same age. The degree to which Panarin stays elite, and for how long, will matter a lot in terms of how we view this deal when it ends. Obviously they are not the same style of player, but both in that 2nd level elite tier not quite with the Kanes, McDavids, Crosbys & Ovechkins, but right behind.

If he's already down to 55-60 points a season by age 32, or god forbid follows a Semin-esque curve, people are going to come away with a bit of a bitter taste in their mouths. If he's one of those playmakers that has great fitness and longevity, then it will be looked back at as a solid deal.

The point is we don't know which.

Kovalchuck, in 222 games as a Devil scored 89 goals and 207 points.

He was still elite

 

[Levitate]

Yeah but he doesn’t drive a line

Or something

There's a tweet floating around about Panarin's analytics are basically amazing as well. He is an elite driver of possession and scores a bunch of points.

 

[RangerBoy]

Signing bonus laden contract.

Just $7M in actual salary.

Buyout proof contract.

 

[Mikos87]

Kovalchuck, in 222 games as a Devil scored 89 goals and 207 points.

He was still elite

And took a team to the Stanley Cup finals while being their best player one year.

 

[Leetch3]

 

[Mikos87]

$42M by July 2021. Assured Money. Knew that's what it would take. Don't have a problem with the man getting paid.

That's why they call him Bread.

 

[Kovalev27]

Kid doesn’t speak English? Still? That’s odd with how long he’s been here and around his teammates

 

[SA16]

How does this structure affect his buyout?

 

[Mikos87]

Whether or not there's a conspiracy theory to the signing being related to the Knicks, shares of MSG lost $230M in value after they didn't land a big FA.

Hmm, it's actually up the last few days.

 

[Kakko]

We can disperse into the player discussion thread or the roster building thread, or whatever feels appropriate