Prospect Info: Rangers Prospect Rankings: (Fall 2020) - #3

[Harbour Dog]

Ranger's Fall 2020 Prospect Rankings​

1. Alexis Lafreniere (F) (2020 Draft - 1st Round) (Not Ranked)
2. Igor Shesterkin (G) (2012 Draft - 4th Round) (E)​

Morgan Barron has been included in the poll​

Players available to be added:​

Player	Age	Position
Dylan Garand	18	G
Adam Huska	23	G
Olof Lindbom	20	G
Hugo Ollas	18	G
Tyler Wall	22	G
Leevi Aaltonen	19	F
Brett Berard	18	F
Eric Ciccolini	19	F
Will Cuylle	18	F
Adam Edstrom	19	F
Jake Elmer	21	F
Gabriel Fontaine	23	F
Julien Gauthier	22	F
Tim Gettinger	22	F
Karl Henriksson	19	F
Riley Hughes	20	F
Patrick Khodorenko	21	F
Patrick Newell	24	F
Lauri Pajuniemi	21	F
Matthew Rempe	18	F
Justin Richards	22	F
Ty Ronning	22	F
Austin Rueschhoff	23	F
Oliver Tarnstrom	18	F
Evan Vierling	18	F
Brandon Crawley	23	LD
Libor Hajek	22	LD
Zac Jones	19	LD
Simon Kjellberg	20	LD
Jacob Ragnarsson	21	LD
Tarmo Reunanen	22	LD
Yegor Rykov	23	LD
Calle Sjalin	21	LD
Hunter Skinner	19	RD

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[Harbour Dog]

Lundkvist has passed off Miller for me at this point. Add Reunanen.

 

[Harbour Dog]

Also, I like @Fitzy 's idea from the previous thread.

When all of the voting is done, we can have supplemental votes to see where we would place any or some of Kakko, Fox, Lemieux, Howden, and Chytil; as the board sees fit.

 

[Zats Muccarello]

Lundkvist for me, kid seems like he’s gonna be the real deal

 

[Edge]

Lundkvist.

Arguably in the upper tier of defensive prospects outside the NHL right now, if not pretty damn close to the top.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Kravdog

 

[nyr2k2]

Lundkvist is more polished but Miller's upside is immense. And, he's much closer than people think.

EDIT: Add Jones.

 

[Quinnisinoverhishead]

Lundkvist. The goat

 

[Rempe73]

Miller is my favorite remaining prospect. Then Kravtsov and Lundkvist are tied for 2nd, but it’s gotta be Lundkvist here. He’s underrated around the league, and I think his ceiling is just as high as Miller’s, if not higher.

Add Cuylle or Jones

 

[Harbour Dog]

Miller is my favorite remaining prospect. Then Kravtsov and Lundkvist are tied for 2nd, but it’s gotta be Lundkvist here. He’s underrated around the league, and I think his ceiling is just as high as Miller’s, if not higher.

Add Cuylle or Jones

FWIW, when you say add Cuylle or Jones, I'm taking the first name you say.

 

[nyr2k2]

I just want to add that with Miller, there's this faulty narrative that he was bad last season. He got off to a slow start but rebounded to have a good year--I can go find the exact numbers, but he was the absolute best at controlled exits in the country, was one of the best at preventing entry, and had elite xGF numbers at 5v5. He was a really good player stuck on a terrible team. He was also a guy who didn't want to be a student, and evidently his struggles with school sometimes affected him on the ice (and led to his initial suspension). Playing pro hockey, where it is now his job, he's going to take off.

 

[mas0764]

Seems like Kravtsov being slept on.

 

[FireGerardGallant]

Kravtsov had a disappointing year but I think after seeing his start to the season this year it was just an anomaly. He still has the better upside of anyone else we have imo
Add Henriksson

 

[Harbour Dog]

I just want to add that with Miller, there's this faulty narrative that he was bad last season. He got off to a slow start but rebounded to have a good year--I can go find the exact numbers, but he was the absolute best at controlled exits in the country, was one of the best at preventing entry, and had elite xGF numbers at 5v5. He was a really good player stuck on a terrible team. He was also a guy who didn't want to be a student, and evidently his struggles with school sometimes affected him on the ice (and led to his initial suspension). Playing pro hockey, where it is now his job, he's going to take off.

And all of that aside, he also looked much more comfortable practicing with NHLers than I expected him to.

As I said, I would take Lundkvist over him right now, but it's a narrow margin. I'm a bit surprised that Nils is running away from Miller and Kravtsov.

 

[Fitzy]

Add Jones

 

[Kaapo di tutti capi]

Add Jones

 

[Rempe73]

FWIW, when you say add Cuylle or Jones, I'm taking the first name you say.

Thanks for the heads up. I didn’t know that. I don’t know why I added two names either

 

[Raspewtin]

nils add Gauthier

 

[nyr2k2]

This is what I wanted:

Wisconsin spent years recruiting a blue line centred on mobility, assertiveness, and confidence, headlined by Rangers’ 22nd overall, K’Andre Miller.

Instead of relying on those skills, the Badgers decided it was best to mitigate their strengths. Controlled exits were replaced with fast up-and-out plays, while inconsistent defensive involvement from the forwards led to Wisconsin’s defenders sitting back in the neutral. Well, except for Miller.

Not only did Miller post identical zone exit results to Hobey Baker winner Scott Perunovich (left), he led the dataset in controlled entry prevention rate, despite the rest of his teammates sitting at average (right). And compared to his teammates, he’s out on an island.

How Miller posted these transition results is even more impressive. While the average Wisconsin blue-liner with the middle in just 11 percent of zone exit attempts while under forechecking duress, Miller used the middle a staggering 46 percent of attempts. And this didn’t come with a loss in success rate – Miller’s exits result in Wisconsin possession in the neutral zone 91 percent of the time – 10 percent higher than Wisconsin average.

Still concerned? While Miller’s half-point-per-game clip seems underwhelming, it wasn’t indicative of his impact. He posted Expected Primary Points per 60 at a virtually identical rate to high-scoring blueliners Jack Rathbone, David Farrance, and Perunovich at 5-on-5. Ignore the noise — Miller’s still a top prospect.

10 Observations From a Year of NCAA Data Tracking

 

[Gospel of Prospal]

Add Gauthier

 

[darko]

Krava add Tarmo

 

[Don Chytil]

Nils, add Jones

 

[Leetch3]

Lundkvist add Jones

 

[Leetch3]

Seems like Kravtsov being slept on.

No they aren’t...the first 2 spots were automatic. Him coming in 3/4/5 isn’t sleeping on him nils and Miller are really good prospects too

 

[Edge]

I will say that I don't think Lundkvist is the highest upside prospect on the board for us. But I do think he has the best balance of upside/probability for success.