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The Canes aren't trading their number one pick unless its for a top forward. It's not really complicated. There's no actual signs or evidence that they're even open to trading it at all, other than they are obviously going to be looking at changes. They don't have to trade their first for a goalie, there will be other ways. We're not taking other teams cap dumps with our first involved, that's dumb. If you're taking Darling then we can talk about your cap dump, but the canes aren't adding good young pieces or first round picks just to move him. I could see them adding a second to get a deal done potentially. So what we're offering for your cap dump is Darling and a second. No young defenseman, no higher pick, no young forward.

"Well the only way they're moving him is by using their first...."

Then they will bury him in the minors or buy him out. Likely they will bury him for a year, maybe two then buy him out. Maybe somewhere in the middle he gets his confidence back and is occasionally used as the backup and occasional starter when others are hurt. Not counting on it but weirder things have happened. Either way the Canes first round pick isn't currently for sale, unless it's for something any team would consider moving their top ten pick for.
 
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1. They ARE buying low in the sense they are getting Georgiev early. If he stays, we selectively play Hank to rest him and up his win totals next year, we can add to Georgiev's value before flipping him once Shesty is ready to come over. Thus, as is Georgiev now is cut rate discount as opposed to over next season + as he shows increasingly he can cut the mustard. Same is true w/McKeown.

2. Darling as is does not sell well. He has the stigma of defective, a lemon car buy. It is an acceptable risk for NYR to gamble Allaire can repair and up his value, but not for anyone else, pretty much.
Staal on the other hand, is serviceable as a 3LD, but overpriced; reduce him to 3 per, and he is totally flippable.
So Canes pay, but they are getting rid of the harder to move Darling as is for the easier to move discounted Staal. That is a significant consideration. Also, Darling has no value at this pt, except to hope to return to form and reclaim his job. Staal as a 3LD, or a placeholder who can step into 3LD if they move Hanifin for Nylander, that does have value for them.


Even if they wait, it's a top 10 pick, most goalies don't get that value, especially in a draft with this top 10. This isn't much of a discount here.
 

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Carolina gave up a 2nd pick (the 66th) and a 7th rounder for Lack and trade a 3rd (90th overall) for the rights to Darling, both of who were more proven at the time. I can't see them swapping down from mid-high 1st round all the way to the end of the 1st round in this deal.

Taking on Staal at ~55% isn't really any better than buying out Darling:
Staal $3M = $9M over 3 years
Darling Buyout = $8.5M over 6 years.
 

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