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Lack of depth on the blueline? We've been trodding out our #7-10 defenseman on the regular since the season began 
No **** they're not performing consistently.
When healthy? I'd argue the Rangers 6D is one of the best in the league, because it is.
No **** they're not performing consistently. When healthy? I'd argue the Rangers 6D is one of the best in the league, because it is.
Lack of depth on the blueline? We've been trodding out our #7-10 defenseman on the regular since the season began
When healthy? I'd argue the Rangers 6D is one of the best in the league, because it is.
I agree, probably and hopefully get the injuries out of the way now
haohmaru
boomshakalaka
Absolutely.
And, as disappointing as last night was, I'm thinking we're dodging a bullet rolling out this band-aid defense every night and still being in every game.
We've got Stempniak and Zooks on the point during the PP, for ****s sake. Boyle will help that immensely. Our best defender is out. Our 6th best defender is out. Our 4th best defender is out. Our number one center has played one game. We've got three (I know Allen is young and this might not characterize his future) career AHL'ers in our starting D.
What were you all expecting? Think the Kings would just cruise along without Doughty, Greene, Martinez, McNab, & Kopitar? Really?
Kakko
Formerly Chytil
haohmaru
boomshakalaka
FWIW, we were lucky last night. Scratch that, Dan Girardi was lucky last night. When I saw that play I was having Malarchuk flashbacks. Scary.
Other than suck every second of every game, Glass has done nothing else.
Basically, you are going to have to package a couple of prospects to get rid of him. Hayes can't play center. Let Lindberg center the 3rd line with Hagelin and Duclair. Let Moore center the 4th line with Hayes and Stempniak. That's just a better team. Period. Even with another rookie in there because Glass sucks so much.
Nash-Stepan-St. Louis
Kreider-Brassard-Zucc
Hagelin/Lindberg/Duclair
Hayes-Moore-Stempniak
As far as packaging Glass. Fast is a player I like but he's not going to play here. Let's face it. Might as well package
Allen, Fast, Glass
for
2nd round pick.
To a team like Edmonton, Columbus, Dallas or Colorado that is searching right now for some success and lack depth. Might have to substitute Hunwick for Allen if that makes the trade work. If that can't bring you back a second, maybe you throw in a Kristo into that deal.
Kristo, Fast, Allen and Glass should be able to get a second. Majority of second round picks don't make the NHL. Fast to me is a sure thing as a NHL role player. Allen should be able to stick as a 5 or 6 with some more experience.
Basically, you are going to have to package a couple of prospects to get rid of him. Hayes can't play center. Let Lindberg center the 3rd line with Hagelin and Duclair. Let Moore center the 4th line with Hayes and Stempniak. That's just a better team. Period. Even with another rookie in there because Glass sucks so much.
Nash-Stepan-St. Louis
Kreider-Brassard-Zucc
Hagelin/Lindberg/Duclair
Hayes-Moore-Stempniak
As far as packaging Glass. Fast is a player I like but he's not going to play here. Let's face it. Might as well package
Allen, Fast, Glass
for
2nd round pick.
To a team like Edmonton, Columbus, Dallas or Colorado that is searching right now for some success and lack depth. Might have to substitute Hunwick for Allen if that makes the trade work. If that can't bring you back a second, maybe you throw in a Kristo into that deal.
Kristo, Fast, Allen and Glass should be able to get a second. Majority of second round picks don't make the NHL. Fast to me is a sure thing as a NHL role player. Allen should be able to stick as a 5 or 6 with some more experience.
Steve Kournianos
@thedraftanalyst
Making trades is a crap shoot. Does't guarantee anything, and statistics show that trading picks and prospects for short term success does more harm to an organization long term than holding onto assets and retooling slightly.
While I think they need to improve, I would wait to see how the team plays when healthy before making a trade.
As much as the replacements suck the good news is that it identified what needs to be addressed.
People who want the Rangers to go out and trade for a good third line center obviously have NO CLUE as to the cap problems they have next year. Basically, they are going to have an impossible time signing their RFA's while bringing back St. Louis and Staal.
The Rangers needed to work in 3-4 rookies this year. The problem they have right now is that they keep playing that waste Glass who makes 1.5 and is taking up a roster spot from a kid. Parting ways with that clown is the first step to improving the team.
The Rangers needed to work in 3-4 rookies this year. The problem they have right now is that they keep playing that waste Glass who makes 1.5 and is taking up a roster spot from a kid. Parting ways with that clown is the first step to improving the team.
Pengs traded him for a reason - and our scouts have been piss poor this summer.
pls. keep brassard with Nash and Marty - I'm not a big fan of him and often he is invisble like last match, except on faceoffs with poor puck decisions.
Yes, of course, but why should AV change that line now since Nash scored with a great pass from Marty. Brassard did very little on his line this game, and he was invisible like the beginning of the season. Girardi was alone and a certain goal with an easy pass, but Brassard decided to shoot instead.
Stepan had a great game - I'm glad he is back on the ice.
I don't understand why Sather traded Stralman 10 pts. (+14) so far with the Tampa Bay Lighning after the horrible defensive effort last game.
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Placid
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Brass has been very consistent this season (in my opinion). If i recall, we were told when we traded for him that he was very good, but then just suddenly "disappeared for long stretches".
While he, as everyone else, has his up and down periods, he hasn't "vanished", at least as far as i can remember (and certainly not this season).
Emptyvoid
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Most people have been wanting to get Antoine vermette, who is a UFA next year.
Placid
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I agree that the line has been very good. My guess is that Kovalev meant that its better to "spread the veterans around", to create 4 playing lines, and not have a 4th line that serves mostly as bench warmers.
There are arguments both for and against, but its AV's decision to make. He wants to win it as much as we do (probably more than we do..lol)
Very few of us understand that
Rather, we understand it (cap situation), but a lot of people wanted to keep Strålman.
I agree that the line has been very good. My guess is that Kovalev meant that its better to "spread the veterans around", to create 4 playing lines, and not have a 4th line that serves mostly as bench warmers.
There are arguments both for and against, but its AV's decision to make. He wants to win it as much as we do (probably more than we do..lol)
Very few of us understand that
Rather, we understand it (cap situation), but a lot of people wanted to keep Strålman.
Yeah for sure I'm confused too about that particular trade, m8.
A solid point about our 4th line - I'm actually worried at the momemt even though it's still early in the season.
We miss Dorseth, Brian Boyle and D. Carcillo for sure, but it was a difficult decisions based on our salary cap issues.
I'm glad I found this HF boards - I was so sad when they removed Disqus from the Blueshirts United.
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Ail
Based and Rangerspilled.
trilobyte
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I am growing to dread these Saturday HNIC games. The Rangers team that Canada sees looks like junk most of the time.
Yes, like other Rangers fans, I cannot wait until I can look up and down the lineup and see all the best players present and accounted for.
Yes, like other Rangers fans, I cannot wait until I can look up and down the lineup and see all the best players present and accounted for.
Placid
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The early injuries complicated things immensely (Steps, Boyle, McD, etc), which necessitated bringing up a number of people from the AHL that are going to be uneven in their performance. As such, line combos are something of a challenge
Welcome to us, hope you'll like it here
I found this board by "accident" myself a number of years ago (just prior to the 2010 Olympics if i recall), there is a very small "fanbase" in Norway (at least that frequent forums, hehe).
LannyMcdonald
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Can't believe we pissed away the points. And to ****ing Toronto. This ****ing beer league D.
Talbot needs to grow the flow back. Maybe he'll stop something again.
Yup. I live in toronto and have now paid to see NYR vs Leafs twice this year in two cities. Both have been outright embarrassments. Tough to make the Leafs look good, and we did it both times.
As I said in the GDT, this team used to have character - would never blow leads like this. I like AV, but we could use a bit of Torts mentality right now (and no, I don't mean bring Torts back).
Gardner McKay
RIP, Jimmy.
We came back in the Minnesota game. That's not character? We fought for a win in Detroit. Two OTLs between St. Louis and Winnipeg and one was a shut out. We came back from 2 down last night. Most of those we were missing some combination of our #1C, a top 6 winger, and 2-4 defenseman. If that's not character than I don't know what is.
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This post is a good post.
Take away Duncan Keith and Johnny Oduya, just how good does the Hawks D look now?
I'm not sure why all the complaints about depth on defense. You can't replace a top 4 d-man without making a trade. No team can.
LannyMcdonald
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I'm not sure what consistency you can realistically expect from a team with half it's top 6 defensemen missing.
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