Post-Game Talk: Rangers 4, Penguins 3 (OT) - Oh, Oh, Oh

[Tom Hanks]

Yes it's really the SAME TEAM.

Except
MAf
Bones Cullen Daley Cole .. Maybe I'm forgetting someone else ..

But yea this is nowhere near the 2017 team who only lost lovejoy

We have Brassard, Sheahan, Oleksiak and Letang this run though.

Plus a healthy Hagelin and Hornqvist, I think this gets forgotten.

 

[Tom Hanks]

EDIT: Goalies are an issue this season. We would easily be first in the division with Fleury instead of the rookies

Fleury was not great here in the regular season last year so I’m not so sure about that. He had a SV% of .909 and a GAA of 3.02

 

[Nadal On Clay]

Fleury was not great here in the regular season last year so I’m not so sure about that. He had a SV% of .909 and a GAA of 3.02

It was just a fluke year. Look at what he is doing with VGK right now. He also saved us a lot in the RS when we had the 2010-2017 injury bug. Fleury is probably one of the best RS goalies in the league (or at least used to).

 

[Tom Hanks]

It was just a fluke year. Look at what he is doing with VGK right now. He also saved us a lot in the RS when we had the 2010-2017 injury bug. Fleury is probably one of the best RS goalies in the league (or at least used to).

VGK plays a better style for him. I think the competition for the starter spot got in his head. Not sure that’d change. Anywho that’s a rarity to have Fleury and Murray on a team.

 

[ZeroPucksGiven]

We have Brassard, Sheahan, Oleksiak and Letang this run though.

Plus a healthy Hagelin and Hornqvist, I think this gets forgotten.

We don't know how ANY of those players will perform with this pens team. That's about a 20% turnover.

So" it's the same team " is a patently false statement or it's being willfully obtuse.

 

[Tom Hanks]

We don't know how ANY of those players will perform with this pens team. That's about a 20% turnover.

So" it's the same team " is a patently false statement or it's being willfully obtuse.

I thought you meant the team as in talent/effectiveness.

 

[ZeroPucksGiven]

I thought you meant the team as in talent/effectiveness.

Well it's not only true in the descriptive sense but also the normative too

Do you think Oleksiak, hunwick and ruh are better than Cole, Hainsey and Daley? I don't

Do you think our winger depth better or worse than last year ?

How about the backup goalie situation?

On paper we are conceivably better down the middle. Jury is out on Brassard and I think he'll be ok, but Cullen was able to buoy the 4th line. Sheahan is trying his darndest but I'm not sure he can save that sinking ship

Not a doom and gloom person bc I think when you boil it down, we're a top five favorite to win it all But I think we're weaker vs last year by a fair bit

 

[Turin]

Well it's not only true in the descriptive sense but also the normative too

Do you think Oleksiak, hunwick and ruh are better than Cole, Hainsey and Daley? I don't

Do you think our winger depth better or worse than last year ?

How about the backup goalie situation?

On paper we are conceivably better down the middle. Jury is out on Brassard and I think he'll be ok, but Cullen was able to buoy the 4th line. Sheahan is trying his darndest but I'm not sure he can save that sinking ship

Not a doom and gloom person bc I think when you boil it down, we're a top five favorite to win it all But I think we're weaker vs last year by a fair bit

They’re better than last year if Crosby plays like he did last year, period. As a team they’ve played better than they did last year, but Sid and Geno were still running wild.

 

[BHD]

Not sure what to make of this team. Even if it isn't pretty, they find a way to get it done. Then there are games (like tonight) where they let games get away. The talent is there, but the focus... @ColePens hinted at it, but they need something to rally around.

 

[Brandinho]

EDIT: Goalies are an issue this season. We would easily be first in the division with Fleury instead of the rookies

We'd also easily be first in the division with a healthy Murray. There was no justifiable reason to hold onto a backup making as much as Fleury.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

That is exactly what happens when you coast your way to a win in the NHL. You lose. You have to play through. Pens were trying pick up their 3 foot putt and didn't take it serious. Rangers made them put the ball down and putt it. Pens miss the gimmie.

Lesson learned hopefully.

This entire season seems to be about the Pens having to learn lessons the hard way. You'd think that by game 71, they wouldn't need these lessons anymore.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

I guess it explains the season the Pens are having right now... we never replaced Cole and Bones, the latter had insane chem with Hagelin and Kessel and well see what Sheahan do in the playoffs.

Also, without Malkin, we are at best in a wildcard spot.

EDIT: Goalies are an issue this season. We would easily be first in the division with Fleury instead of the rookies

The salary cap doesn't exist in your world?

Or are you in favor of taking up almost $10 million in cap space on the goalie situation (only one can even play every night, so almost half that would be sitting every game) rather than add depth like Brassard, etc.?

 

[Tom Hanks]

Well it's not only true in the descriptive sense but also the normative too

Do you think Oleksiak, hunwick and ruh are better than Cole, Hainsey and Daley? I don't

Do you think our winger depth better or worse than last year ?

How about the backup goalie situation?

On paper we are conceivably better down the middle. Jury is out on Brassard and I think he'll be ok, but Cullen was able to buoy the 4th line. Sheahan is trying his darndest but I'm not sure he can save that sinking ship

Not a doom and gloom person bc I think when you boil it down, we're a top five favorite to win it all But I think we're weaker vs last year by a fair bit

Your missing Letang/Hainsey which is significant to our transition.

Hagelin missed a series and played injured the rest and not that effective. Hornqvist missed a series and played the cup final with a broken hand. Bonino missed most of the cup final.

I think we are much better poised this season compared to last. When healthy we can play a similar style to 2016 which is the better way to play.

 

[Tom Hanks]

Not sure what to make of this team. Even if it isn't pretty, they find a way to get it done. Then there are games (like tonight) where they let games get away. The talent is there, but the focus... @ColePens hinted at it, but they need something to rally around.

If this was a playoff game we’d likely (almost positive) have won. That seems to be the difference.

 

[MetalheadPenguinsFan]

There are no words to describe what happened.

Well, maybe one word - OH! Seriously she said it about 50 times tonight.

Was it like this...

Pierre: "Susan, did you know that hockey is played on ice??"

Susan Sarandon: "Oh???"

 

[Tom Hanks]

Was it like this...

Pierre: "Susan, did you know that hockey is played on ice??"

Susan Sarandon: "Oh???"

No lol. She was like a fan getting into the game. She was getting pretty excited.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

No lol. She was like a fan getting into the game. She was getting pretty excited.

Listening to Pierre probably made her decide hockey wasn't worth her time.

 

[MetalheadPenguinsFan]

No lol. She was like a fan getting into the game. She was getting pretty excited.

Oh my.

 

[XanderCrews34]

Cue the overreactions. Yeesh. Teams have let downs. It's not fun. But c'mon folks. There's no way this game was as important as some here are judging it. Just don't do this **** in May and June, ok Pens? Ok? Ok. I'm satisfied with my fictional conversation.

 

[Jaded-Fan]

Not sure what to make of this team. Even if it isn't pretty, they find a way to get it done. Then there are games (like tonight) where they let games get away. The talent is there, but the focus... @ColePens hinted at it, but they need something to rally around.

Playing games late in the year when they have a 98% chance of making the playoffs ain't it.

I still think that they will flip the switch when the playoffs start. How far that leads depends on many things, some in their hands and some like injuries and a bit of luck not. But I have no doubt that this team comes ready to play when the puck drops when it matters most.

 

[JimmyTwoTimes]

We have Brassard, Sheahan, Oleksiak and Letang this run though.

Plus a healthy Hagelin and Hornqvist, I think this gets forgotten.

Not by people who are paying attention and looking at the bigger picture.

 

[JimmyTwoTimes]

Playing games late in the year when they have a 98% chance of making the playoffs ain't it.

I still think that they will flip the switch when the playoffs start. How far that leads depends on many things, some in their hands and some like injuries and a bit of luck not. But I have no doubt that this team comes ready to play when the puck drops when it matters most.

Yup. And i dont know what most expect from a team during the reg season after winning back to back cups.

Theyve already dug themselves out of a huge hole and put themselves in a position to win the division. Not to mention the ridiculous schedule they were handed with all those back to backs having no backup goalie.

Youd think the last two playoff runs would prevent some from thinking the worst..

Only concerns i have right now are sheary(sprong should take his place if he cant get it together) , and kessel being healthy.

 

[deakka]

Cue the overreactions. Yeesh. Teams have let downs. It's not fun. But c'mon folks. There's no way this game was as important as some here are judging it. Just don't do this **** in May and June, ok Pens? Ok? Ok. I'm satisfied with my fictional conversation.

They wont be playing games in may and june if they dont start playing better.

We would also need home ice all the way to the cup, since we cant win on the road.
But we might not even get home ice in the first round if they dont step it up...

 

[flaneur]

was only able to watch the first period and part of the second. thought the team looked dominant...

...

judging by the intense anger and tearing apart of Crosby/team in this PGT that didn't last into the third

 

[Tom Hanks]

They wont be playing games in may and june if they dont start playing better.

We would also need home ice all the way to the cup, since we cant win on the road.
But we might not even get home ice in the first round if they dont step it up...

We will end up close to the away wins we had last year.