Quintessential 2nd-Pairing-Dman and 2nd-Liner?

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When I think brindamour I think 8 70+ point seasons and a playoff performer. Not really second liner.
He played behind Lindros, Francis and Staal his entire career. He's either an underwhelming 1st line center or an elite 2nd line center, I think I'd rather have the second. Guys like Brind'amour, Kesler, late period Yzerman, Toews, they're associated with winning as reliable, responsible 2nd line centers.
 

tny760

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kesler or carter as far as the 2C

probably good enough to be 1C on a lot of teams, but a handful for most other 2nd lines
 

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Mostly agree on brodin, I'm just interpreting quintessential differently. It's a positive descriptor for me. His lack of offense is severe enough that he's not really who I would want on the first pair. However he'll lead a shutdown pair admirably. The kind of player a coach would love to put out there to keep his team out of trouble for 20 minutes per night
Maybe we can agree thta he is a complimentary 1st pairing guy to an offensive dman like Klingberg or EK, or a leader on a 2nd pairing. He has better skills than most 2nd pairing guys, but is a reluctant contributor on offense.
 
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Landesokg & Barrie
Stepan & Hjlamarsson
R. Smith & Schmidt
JT Miller & Shattenkirk
Backlund & Hamonic
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Michael Frolik.

The guy's a pure 2nd liner. He can produce (40-45 points a season). PK 1. PP 2. Tough match-ups all night. Swiss army knife, maybe Czech Army Knife?

2nd Pairing? Those are harder to peg. Petry would be a good name. Gardiner.
 

Calgareee

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I'd say they are good 2nd liners. Not necessarily average ones.

I wouldn’t say they’re average second liners. But the question was quintessential second liners, or guys that are the definition of what a second liner should be.

Both of these guys fit that description to a T.
 

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