You know how some forward combinations and duos just don't gel the way you'd imagine? That's because chemistry, or lack thereof. It's works on the backend too. Quincey-Smith just don't gel. Never have, probably never will.
Confirmed with Link: Quincey Re-Signed, 2yrs/$4.25 AAV
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You know how some forward combinations and duos just don't gel the way you'd imagine? That's because chemistry, or lack thereof. It's works on the backend too. Quincey-Smith just don't gel. Never have, probably never will.
So you think Smith has a top 10 defencemen of all time ceiling while being great defensively and mean?
Ok.
Yes I do. He has those elite skills, doesn't mean he'll get there but his ceiling is tremendous. Cheli was an offensive dynamo his first few years in the league but he learned from guys like Larry Robinson and Craig Ludwig to name a few.
zwixrr
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He'll have to trade away Dats, Z, Kronwall, Nyquist, Tatar and Helm for future considerations before that becomes even plausible.
It's a terrible plan, unless he plans on taking a bat to Z/D/Nyquist/Howard/Tatar/Franzen/Kronwall's knees.
A worse team than what we have this year made it to the playoffs last year. A team that had Cleary/Sammy/Bert play significant numbers of games. A team that had key injuries all year. If they can make the playoffs, a roster with Nyquist/Tatar/Sheahan starting on it can also make the playoffs.
Which means no McDavid.
WingedWheel1987
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The Quincey signing will only get worse. You can at least try to imagine him not being completely useless.
Those fantasies will be dead when the puck drops on opening night.
Those fantasies will be dead when the puck drops on opening night.
Vladdy84
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joe89
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If he puts up close to 30 points while being an even plus minus I will love this deal, but we are more looking at 15 points and crap play.
zwixrr
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If he puts up 30 Pts in bottom pairing minute, I'll be fine with this but we know none of that is will happen or possible
Trying to find thread I started a couple months back about how Qunicey's improved play may mean he's resigned. Still shocked it happened.
Ugh.
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1639225
No one thought he'd be back...granted, that was discussing if the trade was good, so not exactly, but you get the idea...
Ugh.
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1639225
No one thought he'd be back...granted, that was discussing if the trade was good, so not exactly, but you get the idea...
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WingedWheel1987
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Your average Jman
Instead of using that crystal ball to tell us what Kyle Quincey is going to do, how about telling us when the Wings are back on the upswing?
Hckytwn
Don't do it Kenny...
Amen. I thought it would lose its sting a bit after I slept on it, but it didn't. I was looking forward to never seeing him in a Wings uni again.
Frk It
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Quincey isn't the source, but he's another cog in the Ken Holland machine that refuses to budge from mediocrity. Are we a better team than last season bringing back Quincey? I don't think so, and I think anyone would have a hard time making an argument for it outside of us being healthier - though that's applicable to any signing we make.
Are we better if we just promote Marchenko into that spot? Right away, probably not, but at least there is then potential. And we have preserved cap and roster space for future moves.
Is Quincey better than Kindl/Lashoff? Yes, but that's not saying a whole lot. Is his signing going to make a significant impact beyond what we would have with a prospect promoted into that spot? I don't think so. At that point, we may as well just go with the kid.
Unfriendly Ghost
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At this point, I think the only move that makes any sense is to get rid of one of Kindl or Lashoff and then bring up Marchenko (or Sproul, if he can show he's ready). The answer here has to be to go a different direction and play a kid. That's the way to turn this negative into a net positive, because these kids do have lots of potential. Stockpiling underachieving veterans on the lower pairings will prove to be a shortcut to Jack Eichel town. Although, now that I mention it, that doesn't sound so bad...
It might sound awesome to him to have 5 amazing defensemen in GR, but there just isn't enough ice. It's not good for somebody like Jensen to play 15 minutes on the 3rd pairing. and somebody like Marchenko doesn't have a lot to learn there, anyway. He's exactly the type who can learn on the job. That's what he had to do in the KHL, and he did a pretty good job of it then, too.
Plus, given the choice between Lashoff/Kindl and Marchenko, who shoots right, Babcock is going to pick Marchenko. So we don't have to worry about the guy being buried.
Why I think this could actually happen: they have Marchenko at the development camp. No other GR regular is going. I'm pretty sure the reason for that is to get him rehabbing his ankle very early on. The organization knows they need him ready to go for main camp. I don't think they'd push so hard if he was just going back to GR.
It might sound awesome to him to have 5 amazing defensemen in GR, but there just isn't enough ice. It's not good for somebody like Jensen to play 15 minutes on the 3rd pairing. and somebody like Marchenko doesn't have a lot to learn there, anyway. He's exactly the type who can learn on the job. That's what he had to do in the KHL, and he did a pretty good job of it then, too.
Plus, given the choice between Lashoff/Kindl and Marchenko, who shoots right, Babcock is going to pick Marchenko. So we don't have to worry about the guy being buried.
Why I think this could actually happen: they have Marchenko at the development camp. No other GR regular is going. I'm pretty sure the reason for that is to get him rehabbing his ankle very early on. The organization knows they need him ready to go for main camp. I don't think they'd push so hard if he was just going back to GR.
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