Qualifying offers

[darko]

Sorry for asking so many questions on the board, but what are qualifying offers?

1 year offer to your pending free agents. The figure is calculated by an average of 125 highest paid players the previous season. 15.8 mill this season. You offer it to your key free agents and not players that are on the brink. If a player accepts you get him for 1 year (unless you can agree on the extension during that time) but even if a player declines and leaves you get a pick at the end of the first round. Teams signing players that were qualified lose their 1st rounder.

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

Except if their 1st is protected, then the team gets a compensatory pick.

 

[Falco Lombardi]

Which is exactly why I fully expect Murphy to decline the qo and get a long term deal.

I don't think teams will offer it, especially since it comes attached with a draft pick.

I think if he doesn't take the QO, he's going to get left hanging.

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

I don't think teams will offer it, especially since it comes attached with a draft pick.

I think if he doesn't take the QO, he's going to get left hanging.

The market is on Murphy's side. He'll be coveted by multiple teams with multi year deals.

 

[DougieSmash]

Rasmus, Estrada and Kennedy should accept it.

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

Rasmus, Estrada and Kennedy should accept it.

Estrada is cashing in on a multiyear deal no doubt. He will take less per year but more guaranteed overall.

 

[Porn*]

I'm sure Estrada will reject the offer. Unless he thinks he can replicate this past season. I see him looking for a 3-5 year deal.

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

I'm sure Estrada will reject the offer. Unless he thinks he can replicate this past season. I see him looking for a 3-5 year deal.

Incredibly dicey to pass up a 3-4 year deal. Even if he pitches well again next year he'd be another year older and he's already on the wrong side of 30. That could scare off more teams. You don't want to be Ian Desmond. If he pitches well throughout his contract he'll get another one at the end of it.

 

[darko]

Rasmus, Estrada and Kennedy should accept it.

I'd be very surprised if Estrada accepts. This may be his 1 chance to cash in.

 

[DougieSmash]

I'd be very surprised if Estrada accepts. This may be his 1 chance to cash in.

I feel bad for the team that give him 4 years (+ draft pick).

 

[darko]

I feel bad for the team that give him 4 years (+ draft pick).

Could see team like Padres signing him. Their pick is protected.

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

Could see team like Padres signing him. Their pick is protected.

How do protected picks and/or sandwich picks work exactly?

 

[robert terwilliger]

if a team with a protected pick signs a guy with draft pick compensation the team that offered him a qualifying offer gets a sandwich pick and the team signing the player loses their first round pick the following year.

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

if a team with a protected pick signs a guy with draft pick compensation the team that offered him a qualifying offer gets a sandwich pick and the team signing the player loses their first round pick the following year.

Ok, I get that but how do some teams have protected picks and others not? Is it just teams with high draft picks like top 10 or something like that?

 

[robert terwilliger]

top 10 are protected.

 

[robert terwilliger]

phillies
reds
braves
rockies
brewers
a's
marlins
padres
tigers
white sox

are all protected

 

[Canada4Gold]

if a team with a protected pick signs a guy with draft pick compensation the team that offered him a qualifying offer gets a sandwich pick and the team signing the player loses their first round pick the following year.

aren't all compensation picks sandwich picks?

When you QO a player and he signs elsewhere you get a sandwich pick.

When you sign a QO'd player you lose your highest non-protected pick.

The Jays for instance lost their first rounder for signing Martin last offseason. The Pirates didn't directly get the Jays pick, the Jays just lost their pick(everyone after them moved up) and the Pirates got a pick between rounds 1 and 2.

 

[darko]

Yup all compensation picks are at the end of the first round.

 

[darko]

if a team with a protected pick signs a guy with draft pick compensation the team that offered him a qualifying offer gets a sandwich pick and the team signing the player loses their first round pick the following year.

They don't lose a 1st rounder next season. They lose their next pick.

Say Padres sign Estrada. Their 1st is protected so they'd lose their 2nd rounder.

 

[darko]

http://www.fangraphs.com/library/business/draft-pick-compensation/

It's explained well in here guys.

 

[Loosie]

Rasmus is the first ever player to accept a qualifying offer.

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/157183486/colby-rasmus-accepts-qualifying-offer

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

Rasmus is the first ever player to accept a qualifying offer.

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/157183486/colby-rasmus-accepts-qualifying-offer

Kinda tells you that it was a bad idea to offer it.

The QO is basically in place so a team can get a draft pick when the player walks at free agency. It's one year so no big deal I guess and they can renegotiate but if they end up paying Rasmus 16 mil a season that is bad.

 

[Static]

Wieters accepting his QO?

 

[DougieSmash]

Wieters accept it. Waste of money. Let's hope he spend more time at first base and DH. He's nowhere close to Joseph as catcher.

 

[hockeykicker]

was previously reported he would accept