Prospect Info: Prospect Info: Who do you think is the Detroit Red Wings #11 Overall Prospect?

[lilidk]

I've not watched more a few minutes of Wallinder since his draft.
But from what I do see, it's hard to think he's made a ton of progress.
Same thing with Mastrosimone.
But both guys can turn that around this year.
On the other hand, with poor years/injuries, they could end up in McIsaac's spot, with 75 percent of the fanbase thinking they're practically done as a prospect.

Did you actually see Mastersemone playing?

 

[deca guard]

soderblom :
- shooters killer instincts , is 24/7 looking for chances
- good hands and wrister
- has the competitive hunger
- obvious size that could make him a great net front and pp force

 

[Fil Larkmanthanasiou]

I have only seen Tuomisto play at the RW prospects camp and remember him setting up Kotkansolo beautifully (who sniped a laser despite not being able to score one the entire season previously). For an offensive d-man his production was rather unremarkable last year.
The only time I watched Wallinder he seemed the epitome of tools but no tool box guy
So I voted for Soberblom
Add Tyutyayev

 

[jaster]

What happened to Wallinder??? He was about to win #10 until I changed my vote and triggered the runoff at the 11th hour. Now he’s not even in the running for #11!

 

[FabricDetails]

What happened to Wallinder???

 

[RedWingzz]

add Kirill the thrill.

I just have a good feeling about him. Probably because the last no name Russian we had turned out to be a hall of famer, but I just have a good feeling about Tyutyayev

 

[MBH]

Did you actually see Mastersemone playing?

Not last year, no.
But not really improving his goal/points production in his D+2 year was rough for him.
It's a big year for him this year.

 

[lilidk]

Not last year, no.
But not really improving his goal/points production in his D+2 year was rough for him.
It's a big year for him this year.

Same here , that is why I choose him

 

[Pavels Dog]

soderblom :
- shooters killer instincts , is 24/7 looking for chances
- good hands and wrister
- has the competitive hunger
- obvious size that could make him a great net front and pp force

- bad skater
- doesn't use his linemates
- weak defensive stick
- doesn't utilize his size as effectively as he could

 

[Frk It]

Definitely picking between wildcards at this point.

Did people totally give up on Kivenmaki?

 

[deca guard]

- bad skater
- doesn't use his linemates
- weak defensive stick
- doesn't utilize his size as effectively as he could

- giant person that just turned 20
- going to take few years before its known if he can develop athletically enough to play in the nhl
- swedish chara
- big boy bulldozer no need use linemates

 

[raymond23]

- bad skater
- doesn't use his linemates
- weak defensive stick
- doesn't utilize his size as effectively as he could

I will never understand the 'Soderblom is a bad skater' take

 

[Pavels Dog]

I will never understand the 'Soderblom is a bad skater' take

He's pretty sluggish out there, and it's not just about straight line speed. Night and day difference to Edvinsson. Now sure that's more about Edvinsson being an amazing skater, but still.

 

[Hoog]

Come on man, ya'll going to look foolish when my boy Tuomisto is playing second line in 2 years.

 

[Ed Ned and Leddy]

I'm sticking with McIsaac here, for what I believe is my second or third time in a row. In personal viewings he's impressed me, and I don't think his ceiling is realistically that much lower than guys like Wallinder or Tuomisto. The injuries have certainly been a setback, but without them he's probably my #8 prospect just behind Johansson.

Wallinder is a tricky one for me. I like the tools for sure, he clearly fits this mold of big, mobile defenders that Yzerman seems insistent on targeting. He just seems really raw. I don't think a tumultuous COVID season did him any favors. Hopefully his time at Rogle is beneficial, they seem to have good developmental personnel on staff. He's a tricky player to evaluate right now.

Tuomisto, ehh. He's really just never stuck out in my personal viewings, even at Denver. For a #35OA pick playing his D+3 in the NCAA, I think it's pretty fair to expect him to be among the very best blueliners in that league this year. I think there's Hronek-type upside here, but some aspects of his play really give me pause as to whether he can be a reliable enough defender to earn top 4 minutes at the NHL level.

 

[lidstromiscool]

I'm sticking with McIsaac here, for what I believe is my second or third time in a row. In personal viewings he's impressed me, and I don't think his ceiling is realistically that much lower than guys like Wallinder or Tuomisto. The injuries have certainly been a setback, but without them he's probably my #8 prospect just behind Johansson.

Wallinder is a tricky one for me. I like the tools for sure, he clearly fits this mold of big, mobile defenders that Yzerman seems insistent on targeting. He just seems really raw. I don't think a tumultuous COVID season did him any favors. Hopefully his time at Rogle is beneficial, they seem to have good developmental personnel on staff. He's a tricky player to evaluate right now.

Tuomisto, ehh. He's really just never stuck out in my personal viewings, even at Denver. For a #35OA pick playing his D+3 in the NCAA, I think it's pretty fair to expect him to be among the very best blueliners in that league this year. I think there's Hronek-type upside here, but some aspects of his play really give me pause as to whether he can be a reliable enough defender to earn top 4 minutes at the NHL level.

Tuomisto has a lot to do for me to see anything more than a #5 or 6 dman. In Hronek's draft +3 season, he was almost ppg in the AHL and looked great in the NHL. Tuomisto has looked solid, but unspectacular on the weakest Denver team we've seen in awhile. He has a great shot and great size, but his skating is slow, questionable decision making, and he didn't produce a ton of offense. He needs a Parayko like season this year to put himself back on the "exciting" prospect list.

 

[Henkka]

Next #12 round add must be Tyutyayev.

Would add two guys, Hanas too.

 

[RedWingzz]

add Kirill the thrill.

I just have a good feeling about him. Probably because the last no name Russian we had turned out to be a hall of famer, but I just have a good feeling about Tyutyayev

This guy knows, he called it on Monday

 

[Hatter of the Beach]

After that prospect game I think we need to add king Tut

 

[Oddbob]

What has happened with Grewe? Early 3rd rounder just 2 years ago, and not even in the poll.

 

[jfrank21]

What has happened with Grewe? Early 3rd rounder just 2 years ago, and not even in the poll.

He hasnt found his groove.

 

[Henkka]

What has happened with Grewe? Early 3rd rounder just 2 years ago, and not even in the poll.

Not looking good in Finland. So far. Let's see more games.

 

[Rzombo4 prez]

Tuomisto has a lot to do for me to see anything more than a #5 or 6 dman. In Hronek's draft +3 season, he was almost ppg in the AHL and looked great in the NHL. Tuomisto has looked solid, but unspectacular on the weakest Denver team we've seen in awhile. He has a great shot and great size, but his skating is slow, questionable decision making, and he didn't produce a ton of offense. He needs a Parayko like season this year to put himself back on the "exciting" prospect list.

You can always tell who actually watches players and leagues and who doesn't. He makes very solid decisions with the puck and consistently makes sound defensive reads and takes appropriate angles in the defensive zone. If you wanted to get serious about it, he probably has better pure puck skills than Edvinsson, Wallinder and Sebrango. While his offensive production wasn't eye popping, it was more than respectable for a freshmen in an oddball short season and he was trusted with a lot of solid PP minutes.

If you want to knock him, take aim at his explosiveness. That is a legit criticism and something that may ultimately keep him out of the highest levels of professional hockey. There is zero question that he needs to get quicker in all directions, especially to better defend transition and for gap control purposes. Your other criticisms don't hold a ton of water.

 

[Retire91]

Tuomisto

Add Draper

 

[MBH]

You can always tell who actually watches players and leagues and who doesn't. He makes very solid decisions with the puck and consistently makes sound defensive reads and takes appropriate angles in the defensive zone. If you wanted to get serious about it, he probably has better pure puck skills than Edvinsson, Wallinder and Sebrango. While his offensive production wasn't eye popping, it was more than respectable for a freshmen in an oddball short season and he was trusted with a lot of solid PP minutes.

If you want to knock him, take aim at his explosiveness. That is a legit criticism and something that may ultimately keep him out of the highest levels of professional hockey. There is zero question that he needs to get quicker in all directions, especially to better defend transition and for gap control purposes. Your other criticisms don't hold a ton of water.

The dude knows how to step into a slapshot.
Nobody should question that.

But skating is a pretty major weakness. Heavy, heavy skates.
Also - while he was a freshman, it was his D+2 year.

Question: Hockeydb lists his birthplace as San Diego, California.
EP says Pori, Finland.

Assuming Hockeydb has a typo - since they also lack other basic data (DOB).