Prospect Info: Prospect Info: Who do you think is the Detroit Red Wings #11 Overall Prospect?

[Winger98]

1.) Moritz Seider - RD - 20: 6'4" 207 lbs - RH Shot - Zell, GER - 96.2%
2.) Lucas Raymond - LW/RW - 19: 5'10"183 lbs - RH Shot - Goteborg, SWE - 85.1%
3.) Simon Edvinsson - LD - 18: 6'5" 207 lbs - LH Shot - Onsala, SWE - 70.1%
4.) Sebastian Cossa - G - 18: 6'6'' 212 lbs - LC catching glove - Fort McMurray, AL, CAN - 47.8%
5.) Jonatan Berggren - LW/RW- 21: 5'11'' 183 lbs - LH Shot - Uppsala, SWE - 75.5%
6.) Joe Veleno - C - 21: 6'1'' 194 lbs - LH Shot - Kirkland, QC, CAN - 69.1%
7.) Albert Johansson - D - 20: 6' 168 lbs - LH shot - Karistad, SWE - 85.5%
8.) Theodor Niederbach - C - 19: 5'11'' 172 lbs - RH shot - Örnsköldsvik, SWE - 36%
9.) Shai Buium - D - 18: 6'3'' 216 lbs - LH shot - San Diego, USA - 31.7%
10.) Eemil Viro - D - 19: 6' 165 lbs - LH shot - Vantaa, FIN - 24% (runoff 59.8%)

Viro wins the runoff over Wallander and now we're on to #11. Red Savage is the add.

videos were a bit harder to find with viro, so just one highlight package, an interview, and a couple of wings fans just talking about the guy.

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[Frk It]

Tuomisto

Add Kivenmaki

 

[Frk It]

Honestly, if you look at McIsaac's resume and then Wallinders....

 

[jfrank21]

Looking at this list really drives home how D heavy our pool is. Hopefully we start injecting some more skilled forwards into our prospect group starting with the next draft. We have some forwards, but outside of Raymond, Berggren, Teddy and Mastro, I dont see "skill" per se, at least not to the level that will be useful at the top level.

 

[izlez]

Voted Tuomisto again because he has a chance to win the poll, even though I currently have Soderblom a hair ahead of him.

After this round its a definite Soderblom vote

 

[MBH]

This is excruciatingly slow.
We're gonna have the 2022 draft before we finish

 

[Rzombo4 prez]

Tuomisto for reasons previously mentioned

 

[MBH]

Soderblom.
Add Tytuyayev

 

[MBH]

Voted Tuomisto again because he has a chance to win the poll, even though I currently have Soderblom a hair ahead of him.

After this round its a definite Soderblom vote

Strategic voting.
Good god.
Rank your top 15 Red Wings Prospects

How's this compare to the ranked voting?

1. Seider 374
2. Raymond 345
3. Edvinsson 308
4. Berggren 287
5. Cossa 264
6. Johansson 252
7. Veleno 245
8. Niederbach 146
9. Buium 129
10. Tuomisto 120
11. Viro 101
12. Soderblom 86
13. Wallinder 53
14. McIsaac 43
15. Mastrosimone 41
16. Savage 25
17. Sebrango 19
18. Tyutyayev 11
19. Ndeljkovic 8
20. Gylander 7
21 Mazur 6
22. Dower-Nilsson 6
23. Grewe 3
23. Smith 3
25. Lindstrom 1
25. Cotton 1
25. Berglund 1

 

[MBH]

Ranked - One-on-One
1 Seider - Seider
2. Raymond - Raymond
3. Edvinsson - Edvinsson
4. Berggren - Cossa
5. Cossa - Berggren
6. Johansson - Veleno
7. Veleno - Johansson
8. Niederbach - Niederbach
9. Buium - Buium
10. Tuomisto - Viro
11. Viro -???
12. Soderblom - ???
13. Wallinder - ???
14. McIsaac - ???
15. Mastrosimone - ???

My guess is Soderblom may slip to 14 in the poll.

Niederbach is kind of a touchstone/waymaker.
Always ranks in the same place. Always behind the same guys. Always ahead of the same guys. Even on the ranked choices, it was amazing how he almost always came in at the same spot.

 

[izlez]

Strategic voting.
Good god.
Rank your top 15 Red Wings Prospects

How's this compare to the ranked voting?

1. Seider 374
2. Raymond 345
3. Edvinsson 308
4. Berggren 287
5. Cossa 264
6. Johansson 252
7. Veleno 245
8. Niederbach 146
9. Buium 129
10. Tuomisto 120
11. Viro 101
12. Soderblom 86
13. Wallinder 53
14. McIsaac 43
15. Mastrosimone 41
16. Savage 25
17. Sebrango 19
18. Tyutyayev 11
19. Ndeljkovic 8
20. Gylander 7
21 Mazur 6
22. Dower-Nilsson 6
23. Grewe 3
23. Smith 3
25. Lindstrom 1
25. Cotton 1
25. Berglund 1

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Strategic voting, that coincidentally actually lines up with my list in that thread. These guys are so close in my mind, and such longshots, that many of them are interchangeable on a day to day basis. I'd rather put my vote toward a guy I kind of like than let a guy I really don't like sneak a win in.

Which brings me to the much bigger issue of first past the post voting system we use so often in our world. You see...............

 

[MBH]

Strategic voting, that coincidentally actually lines up with my list in that thread. These guys are so close in my mind, and such longshots, that many of them are interchangeable on a day to day basis. I'd rather put my vote toward a guy I kind of like than let a guy I really don't like sneak a win in.

Which brings me to the much bigger issue of first past the post voting system we use so often in our world. You see...............

I just keep voting Soderblom.
Because it's what I believe to be true.
I don't care what the results are, I guess.

 

[izlez]

I just keep voting Soderblom.
Because it's what I believe to be true.
I don't care what the results are, I guess.

Yeah, I went with that method voting for Johansson for 4 rounds when I knew the results weren't going to be close. It got boring for me. After doing that, I decided it's more fun to actually try to influence guys I do like in front of guys I don't like

 

[bedtime20]

Voted for Antti

add Gynlander or Fulcher

 

[simonedvinsson]

I'm not buying the "Wallinder isn't progressing" narrative that's getting tossed around. I thought he looked pretty good in the Allsvenskan. A little overwhelmed or out of position at times in the defensive zone, but I saw improvement. For a guy pegged as a four year project, he looks to be moving along just as expected. It sucks that he's not going to be in the SHL to start the season, but I expect he'll get called up before season's end or get loaned out to the Allsvenskan again.

I've never been a big Tuomisto fan, but he's definitely in the conversation here and seems to be moving along more-or-less as anticipated. And then there's Sebrango. I didn't watch too much of the Griffins last year, so I haven't boarded the Sebrango hype-train, but there's a pretty good argument in his favor too.

Add Tyutyayev.

 

[deca guard]

*EDIT

 

[Syckle78]

I wish Red Savage was a blue chip prospect so we could give him the tag line "All he does is winnie."

 

[MBH]

Yeah, I went with that method voting for Johansson for 4 rounds when I knew the results weren't going to be close. It got boring for me. After doing that, I decided it's more fun to actually try to influence guys I do like in front of guys I don't like

Yeah, that's why these polls suck.
If you have a guy rated way higher than the rest, your opinion isn't counted unless you change your opinion.
So it's stupid.

 

[MBH]

I'm not buying the "Wallinder isn't progressing" narrative that's getting tossed around. I thought he looked pretty good in the Allsvenskan. A little overwhelmed or out of position at times in the defensive zone, but I saw improvement. For a guy pegged as a four year project, he looks to be moving along just as expected. It sucks that he's not going to be in the SHL to start the season, but I expect he'll get called up before season's end or get loaned out to the Allsvenskan again.

I've never been a big Tuomisto fan, but he's definitely in the conversation here and seems to be moving along more-or-less as anticipated. And then there's Sebrango. I didn't watch too much of the Griffins last year, so I haven't boarded the Sebrango hype-train, but there's a pretty good argument in his favor too.

Add Tyutyayev.

I've not watched more a few minutes of Wallinder since his draft.
But from what I do see, it's hard to think he's made a ton of progress.
Same thing with Mastrosimone.
But both guys can turn that around this year.
On the other hand, with poor years/injuries, they could end up in McIsaac's spot, with 75 percent of the fanbase thinking they're practically done as a prospect.

 

[Pavels Dog]

Yeah, that's why these polls suck.
If you have a guy rated way higher than the rest, your opinion isn't counted unless you change your opinion.
So it's stupid.

Identifying polls. Yes, it’s a poll.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

Tuomisto

Add Bradley

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Tuomisto add Gylander.

 

[simonedvinsson]

I've not watched more a few minutes of Wallinder since his draft.
But from what I do see, it's hard to think he's made a ton of progress.

you didn't watch him, but he didn't look improved?

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

I chose Soderblom. Big, good hands, willing to hit and take a hit, and could be a very unique power forward type.

I really like McIsaac and think he could have gone between 8 to 10 if he was healthy, but I think the health issues will haunt him.

 

[FabricDetails]

The phenomenon that is currently happening to Wallinder's name requires a lot of ability to handle nuance, hehe.