What does do either of those things have to do with anything? If he went to the ducks, then he obviously waived it, and he's 25 years old signed long term on a reasonable contract of 5m. You can't be serious. If the ducks decline they decline. But it's far from an absurd ask.
Value of: Price of Tyler Johnson to Anaheim
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Tampa also isn't trading Johnson as a cap dump, he's still a top 6 forward and one of the few right shot we have, we would use others as dumps before him. If Kase signed for 2.5 we'd still save on the deal and with the space we have it'll be enough to fit Karlsson this year.
I don't know how you guys could blow it up and rebuild. I don't see Getzlaf and Perry wanting to leave so you might as well try to win in the next 3 years with them. Your goaltending and D are good, just need a few more forwards to add some firepower.
Why are you trying to sell us on Johnson? He isn't a good fit for the Ducks given their current situation. Just leave it at that and find someone else to take him.
OP was asking what it would take to get Johnson to Anaheim, I wasn't the one who started it by trying to sell him. Lock this up then.
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WhatTheDuck
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Why is it that people seem to forget that a thread is made by one person and not the entire fan base?
OP asked what it would take to get Johnson, but multiple other Ducks fans don't think he fits the direction of the team at the suggested cost.
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dracom
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Literally no one Ducks fan is suggesting the price is too high. None of us want to give up the asking price because it goes against the direction the team should go. So maybe chill.
Mr Quacksworth
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2 of Ritchie/Petterson/Jones/Mahura/Morand
'19 2nd Round Pick (Cnd'l 1st if Ducks make SCF)
For
Tyler Johnson
Low-end Prospect (if TB needs the space)
'19 6th Round Pick (I know, "why a 6th??")
'19 2nd Round Pick (Cnd'l 1st if Ducks make SCF)
For
Tyler Johnson
Low-end Prospect (if TB needs the space)
'19 6th Round Pick (I know, "why a 6th??")
We have no one servicing a third and forth line worth a darn. Hell we have Henrique servicing a second line because Kesler is injury prone every season. And we shouldn’t be wasting the last years of Getzlaf and Perry’s career with a crappy .500 team until they retire. That’s why!
Sorry for the rant. Just want value of.......
dracom
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this team is not a contender even with Johnson. So wasting future assets to add in another large long term contract when we still need money to re-sign Gibson next season and possible one of Henrique or Silf isn't a good idea. We just need to accept and deal with the players we have and see where Getz, our defense and Gibson can take us.
Ritchie + Mahura + 2nd for Johnson + Tammela + 6th isn't the worst deal possible, isn't the best either but is in consideration. Ritchie should be signed cheap so we get 4mil or so in space, Mahura is a very good D prospect and we might lose our 2nd to the Rangers so getting one back is nice. Ritchie I don't know if he fits our style of play but we could use a banger which he is so will help the bottom 6 be more physical at least.
I agree with this last part of the statement. Not sure how Ducks fans want to let sail two of the best players ever in franchise history off to the sunset. This is absurd. Getzlaf and Perry won a cup and our only cup.
If you can get immediate help then get them help! before the numbers goto the rafters. Tyler Johnson is worth every penny if we can negotiate a trade.
WhatTheDuck
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I'd rather management be realistic about the team's direction rather than sentimental. You're talking about "getting help" for Perry who was maybe our 5th most effective forward last season...
Getzlaf and Perry have had a wonderful run with this team, by no means does that suggest they should abandon the future and go all out to try and win another Cup with those two still around.
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Personally id be interested , idk that id give a 1st 2nd(I don't think Anaheim would want to wait till round 3 to draft anyway) and okay prospect I think id rather give up 1st + solid prospect
1st + max jones for TJ.... maybe a depth dmen or something on top of that, that wont really fit on our roster like welinski or something.
1st + max jones for TJ.... maybe a depth dmen or something on top of that, that wont really fit on our roster like welinski or something.
Hockeyholic
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Besides being a non-starter for the Ducks, doesn't the salaries of Lindholm or Manson defeat the purpose of trading Johnson in the first place?
SpeakingOfTheDevils
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Off topic, but how was Henrique in that role?
He always looked best on the wing in New Jersey. A serviceable center, but most Devils fans will tell you that's not putting him in the best place to succeed. I'm just curious.
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I wish we had the center depth to try him on wing.
As to your question; he was streaky but performed well overall. Had some nice chemistry with Ritchie and Kase. Also played well with Perry.
There have been some good proposals in this thread (which is more than I can say for most proposal threads). That being said, I just don't see it being a good fit right now. TyJo would be great but the ask from TB just wouldn't make sense imo. TB can't take money back without moving some first (especially assuming they land Karlsson) so their ideal return is going to be picks/prospects.
I think most Duck fans agree that the team is in that limbo of not being good enough to be 1 piece away from a contender but also nowhere near bad enough to tank and rebuild. We have a good young D core and some good F potential in the pipeline. Personally I think the current window is closed but the next window is not too far. Once Steel/Terry/Comtois are ready for Top 6/9 duties is when I think the next window opens. Probably between 1-3 years. Then we have additional D prospects like Mahura, Larsson, Welinski that can fill in our D corps or be used as trade pieces.
After 3 years, I imagine our lineup will look something like:
Ritchie-Getz-Rakell
Comtois-Steel-Kase
Jones-Morand-Terry
4th-4th-4th
Lindholm-Manson
Fowler-Defensive RD
Larsson/Mahura-Montour
Once our lineup (mostly our F core) is more solidified, thats when I think we should make the moves like moving picks for talent like TyJo will help push us over the top to be true contenders again. Should give us a solid window since most of our D will be in their late 20s and our F will all be mid 20s.
I think most Duck fans agree that the team is in that limbo of not being good enough to be 1 piece away from a contender but also nowhere near bad enough to tank and rebuild. We have a good young D core and some good F potential in the pipeline. Personally I think the current window is closed but the next window is not too far. Once Steel/Terry/Comtois are ready for Top 6/9 duties is when I think the next window opens. Probably between 1-3 years. Then we have additional D prospects like Mahura, Larsson, Welinski that can fill in our D corps or be used as trade pieces.
After 3 years, I imagine our lineup will look something like:
Ritchie-Getz-Rakell
Comtois-Steel-Kase
Jones-Morand-Terry
4th-4th-4th
Lindholm-Manson
Fowler-Defensive RD
Larsson/Mahura-Montour
Once our lineup (mostly our F core) is more solidified, thats when I think we should make the moves like moving picks for talent like TyJo will help push us over the top to be true contenders again. Should give us a solid window since most of our D will be in their late 20s and our F will all be mid 20s.
dracom
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He would probably be 2C behind Getz if Kes isn't playing next season. Rakell is a LW, I don't see him ever playing center in his career again. Steel is also probably another year or two out from being a full time NHL player. With that said, still don't think going after Johnson is a good idea until we deal with Gibson's extension.
