Predators block ticket sales for Pens fans

[bleedgreen]

Priorities. I like it.

 

[Torrie32]

You're acting like the two are mutually exclusive. They're not. I am still a JD, just like I'm also still a BA.

So yeah, you're wrong.

Did you pass a bar exam?

 

[tarheelhockey]

Only if said doctor is a doctor of medicine.

Of course.

So, a doctor is an M.D. in the same sense that an attorney is a J.D.

I don't understand how you can grasp one but not the other.

 

[Torrie32]

Of course.

So, a doctor is an M.D. in the same sense that an attorney is a J.D.

I don't understand how you can grasp one but not the other.

Because a "Doctor" is someone who has completed college, medical school, passed their USMLE exams, finished their residency training, and gotten their Board certifications. Until that time, they are a medical student. Until a law student graduates and passes the bar, they are not an attorney. You are NOT an attorney upon finishing and getting a degree from law school. You are a JD. The way he is avoiding my questions tells me he has NOT passed or taken the bar. So he is NOT an attorney. I don't understand how you can't grasp this.

Earlier when i said you can't be both a JD and an attorney. I was wrong. But I WAS only talking about as far as legal advice goes. One can, the other can't. But if you pass the bar and have a degree, obviously you are both. I was wrong.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Because a "Doctor" is someone who has completed college, medical school, passed their USMLE exams, finished their residency training, and gotten their Board certifications. Until that time, they are a medical student. Until a law student graduates and passes the bar, they are not an attorney. You are NOT an attorney upon finishing and getting a degree from law school. You are a JD. The way he is avoiding my questions tells me he has NOT passed or taken the bar. So he is NOT an attorney. I don't understand how you can't grasp this.

And once you are a doctor, you are still an M.D., as anyone who was alive before the 90s can tell you.

Likewise, even after becoming an attorney you are still a J.D.

It's honestly kind of funny that you're trying to debate this against someone who actually IS both an attorney and a J.D.

 

[Torrie32]

And once you are a doctor, you are still an M.D., as anyone who was alive before the 90s can tell you.


Likewise, even after becoming an attorney you are still a J.D.
.

I fully understand and admitted that I was wrong about that. i edited my post above to reflect that. If he has passed the bar exam, which I have asked him on several occasions, but hasn't answered, I am wrong. But if he has not, he is simply NOT an attorney. SO I assume you passed the bar exam?

 

[Chaels Arms]

What about if I'm a Predators fan living in Pittsburgh? Can I send them some sort of certificate of true fandom and buy tickets?

 

[Mustard]

What about if I'm a Predators fan living in Pittsburgh? Can I send them some sort of certificate of true fandom and buy tickets?

You'd be S.O.L.

There's enough local demand they won't cry over not getting a few outlier fans in. Sucks for them, but they could buy a new 4K HDR 65" tv for the price of one ticket so

 

[Ogrezilla]

What about if I'm a Predators fan living in Pittsburgh? Can I send them some sort of certificate of true fandom and buy tickets?

double screwed because you also can't buy catfish up here

 

[tarheelhockey]

SO I assume you passed the bar exam?

Nope, I just have a basic understanding of professional degrees.

 

[The Macho King]

I fully understand and admitted that I was wrong about that. i edited my post above to reflect that. If he has passed the bar exam, which I have asked him on several occasions, but hasn't answered, I am wrong. But if he has not, he is simply NOT an attorney. SO I assume you passed the bar exam?

for instance even though I am barred in two jurisdictions

Clearly.

 

[PredsV82]

Only if said doctor is a doctor of medicine.

you're really showing your ignorance and doubling down on it.

Practicing physicians have a degree, either an MD (Doctor of Medicine) or DO (Doctor of Osteopathy) which is required before they can sit for the exams that then lead to licensure to practice medicine in a given state or province.

That said, anyone with such a degree, even if they have not yet or for some reason have not chosen to pursue licensure, is still vastly more qualified to explain the medical definition of a condition like shock or sepsis than a layperson who has no such degree.

Similarly, a person possessing a JD, who for whatever reason hasn't yet passed the bar and thus isn't yet a practicing attorney, would still be vastly more authoritative on what is "illegal discrimination" according to the law than a layperson.

A person with a degree in diesel mechanics, even if they didn't yet work on a truck, would be far more qualified to explain how a transmission differential works than a layperson.


how this very basic concept eludes you is beyond me.

 

[PredsV82]

Because a "Doctor" is someone who has completed college, medical school, passed their USMLE exams, finished their residency training, and gotten their Board certifications. Until that time, they are a medical student. Until a law student graduates and passes the bar, they are not an attorney. You are NOT an attorney upon finishing and getting a degree from law school. You are a JD. The way he is avoiding my questions tells me he has NOT passed or taken the bar. So he is NOT an attorney. I don't understand how you can't grasp this.

Earlier when i said you can't be both a JD and an attorney. I was wrong. But I WAS only talking about as far as legal advice goes. One can, the other can't. But if you pass the bar and have a degree, obviously you are both. I was wrong.

I didn't even see this before the last post...the bolded is absolutely false

Like, so completely ignorant that you really shouldn't keep posting.

I was a doctor the day I graduated medical school. I had to do an Internship for one year and pass my USMLE before I could be licensed to practice medicine independently but I assure you I was no longer a medical student the minute I walked off the stage with my MD degree. As an intern I carried out procedures and made medical decisions in a teaching institution that are the exact same as are done privately once I became licensed.

After internship, I was licensed to practice medicine in my state, even though I had four years of residency remaining. I was able, like many others in my situation, to supplement my meager income as a resident by "moonlighting" in emergency rooms and urgent care centers on my nights off. if I wasnt a licensed physician I could not have done so. I finished my residency and the process of becoming board certified took a year, but I nonetheless was in independent private practice in my specialty. And while i am board certified, there are practicing physicians who are not, but they are still "doctors"


Hopefully this has been educational for you, and you'll stop posting from ignorance.

 

[ThirdManIn]

Ungrateful. If it wasn't for revenue sharing, teams like Nashville wouldn't exist

One thing has nothing to do with the other. The Predators organization is obligated to listen to its customers to determine the best course of action to give them the product they want. If that fan base wants the organization to do it's best to keep the home crowd a Predators crowd, a desire that stems from some pretty bad experiences with one fan base in particular, the organization is obligated to listen. In fact, the point of revenue sharing should be too keep teams viable and the entire league healthy until those teams in need are able to maintain a degree of financial success workout revenue sharing. I think most would agree that revenue sharing should not be a permanent goal for any team, but should be something available for teams during times of financial strain. You couldn't be more wrong work your implication that the Predators somehow owe other fan bases something here. They don't. They owe their own growing fan base the best experience possible. With your post your are essentially advocating for poor business practice. That's the irony of it, coming from someone who apparently thinks revenue sharing is a sort of scarlet letter on teams who needed it.

 

[flaneur]

shrug. do what you have to do nashville. that said, don't think arena invading will be an issue in this series.

plus, gold jersey vs gold jersey... unless you are really looking, visually speaking, in crowd shots who can tell which team the individual fans are supporting?

 

[Ogrezilla]

shrug. do what you have to do nashville. that said, don't think arena invading will be an issue in this series.

plus, gold jersey vs gold jersey... unless you are really looking, visually speaking, in crowd shots who can tell which team the individual fans are supporting?

Pens jerseys have gold on them, but they aren't gold. Not most of them at least.

 

[tarheelhockey]

shrug. do what you have to do nashville. that said, don't think arena invading will be an issue in this series.

plus, gold jersey vs gold jersey... unless you are really looking, visually speaking, in crowd shots who can tell which team the individual fans are supporting?

I'm sure this is about more than just the visuals. Arena invasions are not a positive experience for the home fans, and it's understandable that organizations take measures to prevent it when they can afford to do so.

 

[flaneur]

I'm sure this is about more than just the visuals. Arena invasions are not a positive experience for the home fans, and it's understandable that organizations take measures to prevent it when they can afford to do so.

I get it. That's why I don't have an issue with what they are doing.

Just saying that it won't be obvious if any pens fans are in the crowd. The black and gold jersey won't pop out amidst a sea of gold jerseys (unless you are a "Where's Waldo" master )

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

Whoa whoa whoa! Ticket sales and all that stuff I couldn't care less about, but restricting the sale of catfish?! A real hockey market wouldn't need to pull crap like that. How embarrassing for Bettman and the league.

 

[ThirdManIn]

Whoa whoa whoa! Ticket sales and all that stuff I couldn't care less about, but restricting the sale of catfish?! A real hockey market wouldn't need to pull crap like that. How embarrassing for Bettman and the league.

Ungrateful. Teams like Pittsburgh would have been relocated if not for revenue sharing, and now they want to restrict the sale of catfish to opposing team fans?

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

hate it. who cares.

You if you hate it

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

Ah screw it nvm

 

[vwg*]

Whoa whoa whoa! Ticket sales and all that stuff I couldn't care less about, but restricting the sale of catfish?! A real hockey market wouldn't need to pull crap like that. How embarrassing for Bettman and the league.

Rumor has it that Pittsburgh had to do it because some businessman was trying to buy up the complete inventory everyday so that he could supply all of Southern Ontario.

 

[SauceMyBiscuit]

Guys, I'm from Nashville and by the time STHs had bought their tickets, literally all the tickets on sale were resale. It's obsurd.

 

[NSH615]

I get it. That's why I don't have an issue with what they are doing.

Just saying that it won't be obvious if any pens fans are in the crowd. The black and gold jersey won't pop out amidst a sea of gold jerseys (unless you are a "Where's Waldo" master )

Visuals may not pop out, but it would be obvious in the noise levels/cheers. We have this happen in the regular season with Boston and Pittsburgh already (yellow wearing teams). The noise level for the opposing teams is a lot louder at these games. Other teams that have invasions in Nashville are Chicago, St. Louis, New York Rangers, Detroit, sometimes Washington, and Philadelphia (they were booing Subban louder than the Nashville cheers this year).

Some of those may surprise you but a lot of it is because Nashville has become the place to be. The city has grown so much in just the last 5 years. The growth is so much that restricting sales like this will have a very low impact on tourism.