Speculation: Possible trade partners in a Boychuk LTIR trade

mouser

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My suggestion was how Islanders can create more cap space beyond what they have now(between actual cap space and Boychuk going on LTIR)

When you look at that 10M, that will go away pretty fast if you factor in Barzal @ 6.5M, Martin and Greene @ ~ 2M each and Schneider(who probably will spend the bulk of his time on the practice roster). You might also want to factor in there they might want to resign Brassard or some other guy to add 3rd line depth scoring

We’re obviously not communicating here.

Your suggestions to loan and recall players doesn’t create more cap space if Boychuk is on LTIR.
 
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boredmale

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We’re obviously not communicating here.

Your suggestions to loan and recall players doesn’t create more cap space if Boychuk is on LTIR.

So if we send Ladd down you telling me we won't get like a 1M cap savings since he is not part of the NHL roster?
 

mouser

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So if we send Ladd down you telling me we won't get like a 1M cap savings since he is not part of the NHL roster?

Maybe this illustration will help:

Salary cap is $81.5m:

(1) Team A has a roster with a combined cap hit of $80.5m. Being $1m under the $81.5m cap the team has $1m in Payroll Room that can accrue over the season. If Team A makes no other roster cap changes then as the season progresses the team can acquire:
- Day 1 of regular season: contract with a $1m AAV
- Halfway through the regular season: contract with a $2m AAV
- Trade deadline: contract with ~$4.5m AAV

(2) Team B has a roster with a combined cap hit of $86.5m. Including a $6m AAV player going on LTIR (nominal $80.5m cap with the player on LTIR), leaving the team with $1m in available LTIR relief. After placing the player on LTIR and if no other roster changes are made then as the season progresses the team can acquire:
- Day 1 of the regular season: contract with a $1m AAV
- Halfway through the regular season: contract with a $1m AAV
- Trade deadline: contract with a $1m AAV


The Isles are Team B if Boychuk is on LTIR. Unused LTIR relief space does not accumulate.

Sending Ladd down frees up ~$1m AAV of LTIR relief. Whether Ladd is assigned on Day 1, halfway through the season, the trade deadline, or bounced up and down every other day of the season--the Isles can still only add ~$1m AAV in contracts to replace Ladd regardless of when those replacement contracts are added.
 
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Mr Misunderstood

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Maybe this illustration will help:

Salary cap is $81.5m:

(1) Team A has a roster with a combined cap hit of $80.5m. Being $1m under the $81.5m cap the team has $1m in Payroll Room that can accrue over the season. If Team A makes no other roster cap changes then as the season progresses the team can acquire:
- Day 1 of regular season: contract with a $1m AAV
- Halfway through the regular season: contract with a $2m AAV
- Trade deadline: contract with ~$4.5m AAV

(2) Team B has a roster with a combined cap hit of $86.5m. Including a $6m AAV player going on LTIR (nominal $80.5m cap with the player on LTIR), leaving the team with $1m in available LTIR relief. After placing the player on LTIR and if no other roster changes are made then as the season progresses the team can acquire:
- Day 1 of the regular season: contract with a $1m AAV
- Halfway through the regular season: contract with a $1m AAV
- Trade deadline: contract with a $1m AAV


The Isles are Team B if Boychuk is on LTIR. Unused LTIR relief space does not accumulate.

Sending Ladd down frees up ~$1m AAV of LTIR relief. Whether Ladd is assigned on Day 1, halfway through the season, the trade deadline, or bounced up and down every other day of the season--the Isles can still only add ~$1m AAV in contracts to replace Ladd regardless of when those replacement contracts are added.

Your illustration:

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