Confirmed Signing with Link: Player Arbitration (Dates in OP 1&2)

[Flukeshot]

Jets have some work to do.

Do we find out player and team asks any time soon?

 

[Scott Stevens]

No one can offer sheet Stone? That’s a shame.

Yeah man. It sure would be a shame if he and his bosses were both happy with working together and he stayed in Ottawa. What a joke.

 

[AuraSphere]

Willy didn't file for one? That's a relief

 

[JetsHomer]

Willy didn't file for one? That's a relief

He’s not eligible to file for arbitration

 

[Price is Wright]

Jets have some work to do.

"Dano wants $1.8 million. What is your counter offer?"

"Ten bucks?"

 

[hockeykicker]

Jets have some work to do.

Do we find out player and team asks any time soon?

likely not until a few days before the hearing. the arb hearings start july 20th so if a jets player is first, we probably hear both sides around july 18th

 

[Moosetache]

Canes are hoping Hellebuyk gets awarded 10 mil and jets have to walk away

 

[indigobuffalo]

That’s alarming that none of Toronto’s RFAs filed for arbitration.

Leaves them open to offer sheets...

Guess I had better get more popcorn.

 

[rent free]

That’s alarming that none of Toronto’s RFAs filed for arbitration.

Leaves them open to offer sheets...

Guess I had better get more popcorn.

None of them were eligible so how could they file for arbitration?

 

[Acetylene]

It will be interesting to see what W. Karlsson, Dumba and Edmundson are awarded if they don’t settle before the arbitration.

 

[ottawah]

If Ceci and Stone are awarded significant raises.. Does Melnyk let them walk?

No too valuable, and it would only be for one year so at worst you keep and trade as both have significant trade value.

I don't think Ceci is command much different than his 3.4 from last year and even if he got a major raise, say 5M he still has trade value.

Stone at least would be worth a good amount even if he got 10, just purely as a rental.

 

[justafan22]

Stone can only sign a 1 year deal and can't extend until January 1st

 

[Evgeny Oliker]

Have all the arbitration dates been announced? if so, does anyone have a link to it?

thanks

 

[hockeykicker]

Per nhlpa


July 20 Phillip Danault
July 20 Chris Tierney
July 20 Devin Shore
July 20 Jacob Trouba

July 22 Adam Lowry
July 22 Blake Coleman

July 23 Brett Kulak
July 23 Liam O'Brien
July 23 Mathew Dumba

July 24 Brandon Montour

July 25 Joel Armia
July 25 Joel Edmundson
July 25 Brandon Tanev

July 27 Mark Jankowski

July 28 David Rittich
July 28 Jamie Oleksiak
July 28 Jason Zucker

July 29 Troy Stecher

July 30 Jimmy Vesey
July 30 Tomas Nosek
July 30 Garnet Hathaway
July 30 Mackenzie Weegar
July 30 Marko Dano

July 31 Brady Skjei

August 1 Cody Ceci
August 1 Elias Lindholm
August 1 Stefan Noesen
August 1 Gemel Smith

August 2 Miikka Salomaki
August 2 Kevin Hayes

August 3 Mattias Janmark
August 3 Mark Stone
August 3 Taylor Leier
August 3 Brock Nelson

August 4 Ryan Spooner
August 4 Patrik Nemeth
August 4 William Karlsson

 

[Flyerfan52]

This means less than a week of Trouba speculation & lowball offers left.
Now that Helle is re-signed expect Trouba to be the next 1 announced.

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

Can a team trade a player that is due for an arbitration hearing? Or are things on hold till after the hearing?

 

[uncleben]

Can a team trade a player that is due for an arbitration hearing? Or are things on hold till after the hearing?

Yes if it's player elected, no if it is club elected?
Don't quote me on that. Trying to see if I can find something in the CBA...


I might be conflating that with walkaway rights.
I can't find info on trading

 

[glucker]

Which of these players might become UFAs after this process?

 

[mcpw]

Which of these players might become UFAs after this process?

"Player elected Arbitration Settlements of 1 year and greater than $4,222,941, Club can walk away from the awarded salary, making the player a UFA [CBA 12.10(a)]"

In other words: none will.

 

[uncleben]

"Player elected Arbitration Settlements of 1 year and greater than $4,222,941, Club can walk away from the awarded salary, making the player a UFA [CBA 12.10(a)]"

In other words: none will.

Clubs can also "walk" from a two-year, by accepting the terms as a 1 year deal and letting the player go to UFA next year.

Not necessarily relevant to the question of "who may be UFA this year", but a little quirk of the process


There's also a limit to the number of times a team can walk away, which will play into the teams that make it to multiple hearings


Its pretty rare for teams to walk though

 

[Brockon]

And that's why I think Wild Bill is going to be one of the guys who will go all the way to a hearing - his season was seemingly unprecedented and it's SO hard to come up with a term/dollar amount that makes sense for both sides.

It'll be the same scenario as Schmidt: player elects arbitration, VGK selects 2-year award that takes the player to UFA, arbitrator decides the salary, and (hopefully) VGK gives the player a long-term extension after Year 1.

Why on earth would Vegas elect to give a 2 year contract to Karlsson? They give him a 1 year contract, and spend until January talking to his agent about what acceptable terms are for a contract, while getting a chance to see if last year was a fluke. And if they can't reach favourable terms, then they repeat thie arbitrationpprocess next year and sign him to a 2 year contract, taking away one of his UFA years.

I just don't understand all the people who believe that teams want aby promising players to obtain UFA status... As RFAs, they can only be given a 1-2 year contract in arbitration - that's next to no leverage to get a bigger or longer contract.

If the team allows a player to become a UFA, suddenly the player can rebuke with, well Team XY offered me 13x7, match it or I walk... There's absolutely no benefit to allowing a player that you want to keep to become a UFA. The players if they're lucky become subjects of a bidding war and chose where they want to go.

Should a RFA not take the offered contract all they can do is not play hockey. They can't go play elsewhere. They lose money, development time, the option to play high level hockey - which if you play in the NHL you're absolutely passionate about (at least at the age you're an RFA at).

 

[Mr Positive]

oh man, yet again Trouba contract dispute. How many years does he owe to Winnipeg before he can leave?

 

[uncleben]

And if they can't reach favourable terms, then they repeat the arbitration process next year and sign him to a 2 year contract, taking away one of his UFA years.

Not relevant to this year, as these were all player-elected arbs, but if any were club elected, then no club could take them to arbitration next year.

It's unique case where the plan doesn't work.
Otherwise, I agree with all your other points.

 

[me2]

Someone tell Marko Dano he's on his way to following Yakupov so just shut up and take what's offered.

A lot of players to to arbitration for guaranteed employment not for a huge pay day. The team can't shut him out, refuse to negotiate and wait for him to break. Arbitration will guarantee he has a contract on day 1 of the season either negotiated or arbitrator assigned. He can go into negotiations over the next week or so with his safety net in place, and many of these guys sign before arbitration.

Also his previous contract was 2-way, so QO was would be based off that. He can get to arbitration and he might get that to 1-way. Again a step up over 2-way.

 

[hockeykicker]